enough already!!

[phishfearme]

has anybody else noticed the preponderance of trip reports from eddie north??

a new member to this site (and other sites!!) would think that this is the only place where people go and the only place where the fishing is excellent.

it may also make one think that there's almost an advertising contest going on here - the most posts on the most sites gets a free trip???

i'm certain that eddie provides a wonderful trip - but i don't think this site or others need ANY additional repetitive reports - what else does one need to know??

phish

[eyemike]

I like hearing about the Eddie North trips. I have never been there and still enjoy reading about the trips.

[solopaddler]

As someone who's fished with Eddie 3X and posted trip reports of my own, I love seeing the other reports.

That said I can see where you're coming from, although it may be a bit off base.

How do you curb someones enthusiasm if they've had a great trip?

I'm pretty sure if someone had a negative experience at Eddies they'd be sure to let everyone know.

Myself I fish with a lot of different outfitters and post reports for each.

I always appreciate the reports from other anglers as it helps me when it comes to decision time. I can only hope other people have the same appreciation.

[GOBIG]

I really enjoy the trip reports for all over. Once i get interested in a lake, i ask for details from past guests. I want to hear the good and bad. I also send pm's to others asking for phone numbers so i can talk to them directly. If a place is good fellow fishermen should hear about it, if it is bad, blow it up. I have fished eddies and found it to be the best place i have ever fished.

[TIGHTLINER]

I also have had the experience of fishing with Eddies North. I found this outfitter on WC along with others that have fished with him. Without WC and the posts others have posted this could not have happened. I enjoy reading WC along with posts and pictures from others. Fishing Eddies was one of the most rewarding fishing trips I have taken. I fished the river system and what a fishery it is. Eddie himself is a person that one can go to for fishing his camp. I believe the posts that have been put on WC are just facts that others have found about him and enjoy talking about him. He runs a great camp and knows how to make the people in camp truly enjoy their trip. He is there if something needs to be addressed and tries very hard to correct the problem. You really have to meet him in person so know what one is talking about. I am in no way connected with the camp and looking forward to a trip back to Eddies in the coming years. Hats off to you Eddie for making not only my trip a great success as others have said the same. :thumbsup:

[Stu]

I'm a little confused. I searched the archives and found only 8 posts from him. Am I missing something?

[wallydave]

Isn't sharing fishing reports, to good and the bad, part of why we are part of this board? Sharing our experiances helps others to make for the best trip we can possibly have.
One part of my membership is dealing with my "trip anxiety", I have only 38 weeks until my next trip North! Reading about others and thier trips helps with the basics, what color jigs, bait choices, crawlers, minnows and /or leeches, what time of year, what bodies of water, where to stay or not stay.
I also like the reports from different anglers, "some day" I would like to try some new spots and the posts here, just add to the file I have for those "some days"!
Lastly, if you don'y want to read a thread or post, then don't. Let each person decide what they want to read, or not.

[deputy dog]

i learned of eddie north through solopaddler's trip report on this site as my group was looking for a new outfitter. with the positive postings on this site we were confident with booking with eddie. without the info on this site it would have ben a "shot in the dark". this site is an excellent place to gather info, good and bad, on an outfitter. every outfitter's site looks great with all positive reviews so it's sites like this that give unbiased and honest opinions from fisherman not owners. i enjoy reading reports from all outfitters and simply wanted to share my experience. i also believe eddie got alot of bookings from guys who follow this site and also wanted to pass along their experiences at eddie's camp. if there was a contest for a free trip i wish i would have been told as i would've posted waaaaay more times:) there is no conspiracy i assure you, just guys wanting to pass along how their trip went.

[phishfearme]

I'm a little confused. I searched the archives and found only 8 posts from him. Am I missing something?

only 8 posts??? find any other flyin outfitter with even half that many - AND did you include the richter lake posts too?? AND - on ANY given day for the last few months you can find an "eddie north" report on page one - almost like there's people out there making sure that as soon as an eddie post goes off the front page, it's pushed back TTT (to the top).

years ago this board became known as the "lac seul board" - report after repetitive report on lac seul. so many that they became meaningless. and there's dozens of lodges and cabins on that lake. fortunatley this lac seul focus has abated and broader more valuable posts exist.

and don't call me paranoid - you're not paranoid if people are REALLY out to get you.

phish

[lenray]

Phish--is one of da few I take to the Bank when I am looking for super great info.

[Juls]

LOL...seems to me you just gave Eddie's a whole lot of exposure with your thread Phish. :p

Just say'n...

Juls

[wallydave]

It seems like the clients are posting about the trips at EN. It's not like how some owners will post about how great the fishing is at thier locations. I welcome the posts from the operators, we all have an interest Canadian fishing, it's good to hear from the men and women that help us have places to go and fish, hang-out and get away from it all! Thier advise and insights from running thier camps is another source of infom that helps make our trips worth while. As long as the operators aren't trashing other camps, and members share thier trip info good and bad, lets remember it is about helping each other to have the best fishing experiance we can!

[phishfearme]

LOL...seems to me you just gave Eddie's a whole lot of exposure with your thread Phish. :p

Just say'n...

Juls

good point juls! like in hollywood, ALL exposure is good exposure. i just think we all need to guard against commercializing our site. there's a fine line between writing a trip report and advertising - but the number of posts here seem to be WAY out of line with respect to what i've seen over the last many moons.

phish

[wallydave]

Phish, give Eddies a try and see if the reports are accurate! Maybe you could get a research grant to look into this, for the right price I could be available to document your findings!:happy:

[Juls]

but the number of posts here seem to be WAY out of line with respect to what i've seen over the last many moons.

phish

The number of users has multiplied too, but the number of moderators has stayed the same....it's going to happen.

That's why there is an alert button, so posts that we miss can be looked at by the mods and taken care of, if necessary. Or, you can also volunteer your free time to help moderate the site. :)

Juls

[phishfearme]

Phish, give Eddies a try and see if the reports are accurate! Maybe you could get a research grant to look into this, for the right price I could be available to document your findings!:happy:

you seem to have totally missed the point - do you know how many thousands of excellent outfitters with excellent lakes - at least equal to eddies - are out there and get practically no posts here? then within the last few month one outfitter gets hundreds - something every day. doesn't this smell of embellishment to you (commercial)? this site has a clear policy concerning advertising - it just can come in disguises sometimes.

[phishfearme]

The number of users has multiplied too, but the number of moderators has stayed the same....it's going to happen.

That's why there is an alert button, so post that we miss can be looked at by the mods and taken care of, if necessary. Or, you can also volunteer your free time to help moderate the site. :)

Juls

so how do you apply? or, am i already doing it - maybe a bad job of it?? any training?

[Juls]

so how do you apply? or, am i already doing it - maybe a bad job of it?? any training?

Email Scott...Scott@walleyecentral.com to get more info. He's hunting till Wednesday though, so be patient on a reply.

Juls

[jow]

Wow

In no way is Eddie or anyone influencing any of these threads that have started that I'm aware of.The only reason we posted ours is cause we(mostly my son)is still pumped about the trip.


Cheers
Joel,Owen

[wallydave]

Phish I was only trying to lighten things up! You seem really upset about this. True many great resorts/camps are out there, why thier clients do not post here, is a question for those who do not post here.

you seem to have totally missed the point - do you know how many thousands of excellent outfitters with excellent lakes - at least equal to eddies - are out there and get practically no posts here? then within the last few month one outfitter gets hundreds - something every day. doesn't this smell of embellishment to you (commercial)? this site has a clear policy concerning advertising - it just can come in disguises sometimes.

[lol2]

Seriously Phish is afrad of something. Give it a rest. Some guys will complain about everything Grow up.

[wallydave]

People that visit the Canada board are part of several groups. Some are looking for info, some are sharing info, some are sharing the total Canadian experiance, beyond just the catch, the camps, boats and the fun that are all parts of a great trip. When visiters are looking for a place to go, the read about a trip, look at the operators web-site, a few phone calls or e-mails and they book a trip, When they get back, there share thier experiances, good and bad. When there are several posts about a good place on this board, well it could be that the people who post here are the same ones who find a place to go fishing here. No conspiracy just the facts.

[Walleye Wanderer]

I would agree with Solopaddler on this one.
I have fished various outfitters over the years and usually post some sort of report which is based on the experience as I saw it...good or bad.
This year I fished at Eddie's and the reason I fished there was largely due to reading some of the posts here and elsewhere. The idea of this forum is to disseminate information to fellow fisherman about experiences that we have all had, the fact that several people have posted positive trip reports about Eddie's is due to the positive experience they had...period. I can assure you that during the week I spent at Eddie's we had no discussion about posting anything on any forum, in fact I am reluctant to post any of my pictures as too many people may want to fish there and I will be hard pressed to get a week.
Having said all of that, you are correct that there are many great outfitters and lakes that have visitors all summer and I certainly encourage those visitors to post reports about their experiences as I for one enjoy reading all of them.
just saying...

[polaris-pete]

I think that if someone has a good trip, no matter where, share your thoughts and experiences, whether good or bad.Evidently all who have fished at Eddies love it and aren't afraid to share info, thats what the WC Forum is here for.

[keek]

The more trip reports on WC the better. I have learned a lot from reading these over the years. I think we would be able to tell if people were just trying to get Eddie's North or any other outfitter for that matter some fame and glory instead of truly sharing what a great adventure they experienced.

[Pikeslayer8]

I believe in Ontario, through this forum readers feel that there are certain tiers of lakes and outfitters. I feel that their is so much diversity throught this region. Lets face it, some lakes are better than others. A lot is personal preferance . I've never heard of Eddie North before Walleye Central, but could he be a man who did his homework and developed camps on top tier lakes.
I have read a tremendous amount of reports on his camps, thing is, there are pictures to back them up.
Now that I am a 2 trip/year guy, my fall trip is up for grabs. This year, in 8 days, I arrive Forrest Lodge. :rockit:Caribou Lake.

[Larry Mac]

I believe phishfearme's intentions are sincere. He is a Charter Member and obviously wants to protect the high standard of integrity of this very precious site. I do believe that the reports about Eddie's North are true and factual, posted by fisherman for fisherman. I also believe that the monitors of this site do a great job protecting the site and all who use it.

As a Canadian Wilderness Fisherman, joining Walleye Central is one of best things I have done in a very long time. I have met some very knowledgeable, incredible fishermen who have shared their experiences selflessly. I have had the pleasure to have fished with some, met many others and received everything from reports to marked maps to even having dinner and conversations with them prior to going to a new camp.

I believe keeping the high standard of quality on Walleye Central is important. Thank you all for making this site what it is today. Have a great year.

Sincerely,
Larry Mac

[adempsey]

I'd love to see more reports from other lodges as well, but I don't see any reason to suggest not posting a report from a lodge that someone else has already reported on regardless of how many times it has been posted. What purpose would that serve?

I think encouraging people to report their trips would be more productive.

Your report from Kearns was great and I wish more people would do the same (myself included!).

[MidWestFishman]

I enjoy WC for reading about any lodge that someone posts about. I have also seen a lot about Eddie Norths but enjoy reading about it. I have never been there. I love fishing in Canada but due to reasons beyond my control I have to go on my trips as a single fisherman so Eddie Norths isn't available to me. I have found a lodge this year that as long as I can afford it, I will go back to- excellent fishing and a lodge owner that made me feel very special and went out of his way to make my trip memorable. Even knowing that, I really enjoy hearing about others trips both good and bad.

I suspect that lodge owners read on here also and may pick up some tips on how to better their own service (no matter how good it is) by reading customers comments about trips. While I enjoy customer reviews on the owners website I tend to take them with a grain of salt and trust the ones on here more.

As long as the comments seem original and not plageristic of other comments, I will keep reading them. Just my 2 cents worth.

[solopaddler]

I love fishing in Canada but due to reasons beyond my control I have to go on my trips as a single fisherman so Eddie Norths isn't available to me.


Actually I'm fairly sure Eddie would accomodate a single fisherman.

(Hopefully that's not too spammy :happy: )

[deputy dog]

hey solo, i think with that positive post you have just won yourself 1 free week at eddie's:) just dont post another trip report about eddie's phish is tired of hearing about it.....jk

[pike50plus]

has anybody else noticed the preponderance of trip reports from eddie north??

a new member to this site (and other sites!!) would think that this is the only place where people go and the only place where the fishing is excellent.

it may also make one think that there's almost an advertising contest going on here - the most posts on the most sites gets a free trip???

i'm certain that eddie provides a wonderful trip - but i don't think this site or others need ANY additional repetitive reports - what else does one need to know??

phish

Have you been to this place yet?

Then post your actual experience as we have done!

50Plus

[pike50plus]

Email Scott...Scott@walleyecentral.com to get more info. He's hunting till Wednesday though, so be patient on a reply.

Juls

If he becomes a mod, is he going to be non-biased??
'

Look at how hw has acted in this thread?

He talks about more outfitters here than any other poster and no one has complained about how he could have been to 1,000 places?/

Maybe he's having a bad day, I'm considering the source here, and he has no knowlege of eddies at all!

[solopaddler]

I personally believe phish is a good guy. I've always valued his input and will continue to do so.

I can even see where he's coming from here so I wouldn't hold it against him.

As mentioned earlier I believe he's a bit off base here though.

In any case there's nothing wrong with a civil debate on the topic.

I'm sure Eddie has enjoyed reading this thread LOL!

[phishfearme]

now that the personal attacks have started it's time to nuke this thread.

i got my answer anyway - no one else seems to mind that there's lots and lots of postings associated with one outfitter and that it may be a stealth advertising effort.

i'll ask the moderator to nuke this.

phisih

If he becomes a mod, is he going to be non-biased??
'

Look at how hw has acted in this thread?

He talks about more outfitters here than any other poster and no one has complained about how he could have been to 1,000 places?/

Maybe he's having a bad day, I'm considering the source here, and he has no knowlege of eddies at all!

[pike50plus]

So take your ball and go home, Wow!!!

Nobody personally attached you, they commented on your theory?

Glad coaches have tougher skin than you, they won't make any calls becuse someone wouldn't like them?

[pike50plus]

but i don't think this site or others need ANY additional repetitive reports - what else does one need to know??


The more you know about a fishery at different times of the year and under all kinds of conditions is what this baord should be for?

You are free as anyone Not to read them all if it's too much? food for thought?

[IaDave]

So take your ball and go home, Wow!!!

Nobody personally attached you, they commented on your theory?

Glad coaches have tougher skin than you, they won't make any calls becuse someone wouldn't like them?

Who's having the bad day-sounds to me like you have the skin thin.

[pike50plus]

Who's having the bad day-sounds to me like you have the skin thin.

So you don't agree that having more information is good for the board?

That's what I just said and all I said as an reach out to put this to bed?????

nice JOP though!

[v-bay gord]

I find this thread interesting from a number of perspectives. As an owner, as someone already commented on, I am interested in hearing about the good and bad comments on resorts, and how I can improve or emulate the good or bad (can't say I always will, or am capable of, but I do look and consider). I also take with a grain of salt the good and bad comments because they can sometimes be overblown for many reasons. Phish has a point on over abuse of the forum, but in most cases there is sufficient conterbalancing comments that will come into play before too long to end it. For Eddie North this was a positive experience I would think....I even went to have a look at his site. This brings me to another interesting thing I came away with.....or more of a question on "what appeals to folk who travel to our area to fish"? From Eddies site and the comments he seems to offer great fishing in a rustic setting. From my experience the setting might be too rusic for many folk, yet the positive comments suggest otherwise........which leads me to my own conclusion(s). From reading Eddie North's website I can see that he has the characteristics to be a great host.......I appreciated reading his conservation strategies and how he views them. He's new to the business, eager and obviously makes a great impression with his guests.....hence the willingness to provide the feedback. Good fishing doesn't hurt either. Finally, I find it interesting how we, as posters to this site, are so easily riled by trivial things. So before we all tie our shorts in a knot, maybe reflect a bit on some of the different opinions and perhaps look at the bigger picture a bit more. What is important to making your trip successful? I don't think it is just the fish...

[solopaddler]

Some great input there from v-bay gord.

I'd like to add some insight of my own on Eddie if I may.
Back in the summer of 09 Eddie had aquired the lease on Beteau and was in the process of rebuilding the old existing run down camp.

While browsing WC I came across a post of Eddie's (although I had no idea it was him) where he was describing this brand new camp being built on the Attawapiskat.

I was already quite familiar with the fishery on the Attawapiskat through the posts of my buddy Moosebunk who also posts on here occasionally.

Bunk had a tremendous trip fishing out of Hearst Airways Pym Island camp about 80 odd km's downstream from Eddie.

I sent the poster a pm asking for more info on the newly built camp as I'm always searching and digging for something special.

The poster as mentioned turned out to be Eddie. After a couple of emails and a long phone call I booked my group of 6 into Eddies camp for June 2010, his first official year of business and sent him a deposit cheque.

Now this is where the true colors of the man show.

Later that summer in August we spoke again about my June booking.
I casually mentioned to him that I was trying to plan a fishing trip for early Sept...wasn't sure where I was going.

Without skipping a beat Eddie says "Come on up to Nakina and fish the camp! I have a planeload of supplies being flown in so if your group can fit in the plane there'd be no charge"

"The camp is still under construction but it'd be nice to see a group in there to check things out for me!"

I've dealt with literally dozens and dozens of outfitters over the years and I have NEVER met anyone like Eddie.
Who else would invite a complete and total stranger to come up and fish his new camp for free?

He had no ulterior motives, he didn't know me from adam, he's just a genuinely NICE human being.

I went on that trip with some friends and had a spectacular time. Fishing was off the hook. When I arrived home I felt obligated to try and do something in return for the man, although he had asked nothing of me.

I wrote my first detailed Eddie North report and posted it on a variety of internet sites including WC.

The response was overwhelming to say the least.

I am VERY happy I was able to help Eddie get the ball rolling with his venture.

I will continue to fish with Eddie every year god willing, the fishing is world class.

Having fished with him 3X now I'm also proud to call him my friend.

They say good things happen to good people. In this case it's absolutely true.


Cheers, Mike

[cruiseforever]

you seem to have totally missed the point - do you know how many thousands of excellent outfitters with excellent lakes - at least equal to eddies - are out there and get practically no posts here? then within the last few month one outfitter gets hundreds - something every day. doesn't this smell of embellishment to you (commercial)? this site has a clear policy concerning advertising - it just can come in disguises sometimes.


Maybe the folks that fish the lakes are trying to keep them a secret. I like reading reviews and getting ideas where to try next.

[Moondog]

I have been watching this thread for a few days now and I agree with V-Bay Gord, Phish AND the rest of you! Phish probably wishes he never said a word because of all the knee jerk reactions. Gord is right....people sure are easily riled up. AND you all are entitled to your opinions......pro and con. Last time I checked America still has free speech altho I am beginning to wonder if it is still a land of the free. At any rate......at least cut Phish some slack. He has always been an active poster on this website with some good info. He is entitled to express what he thinks. Guess you always have to take the chance that there will be disagreement but it should be civil.

I personally think that since the season is winding down we all just don't have enuf to chat about.

[pike50plus]

I find this thread interesting from a number of perspectives. As an owner, as someone already commented on, I am interested in hearing about the good and bad comments on resorts, and how I can improve or emulate the good or bad (can't say I always will, or am capable of, but Iour shorts in a knot, maybe reflect a bit on some of the different opinions and perhaps look at the bigger picture a bit more. What is important to making your trip successful? I don't think it is just the fish...

You are a class act, Thanks for your input!

[Crede]

Phish--is one of da few I take to the Bank when I am looking for super great info.


Second that opinion. Solopaddler also moving up the list.

[HeHooksHimself]

Phish is actually Mushmouth and Eddie is planning a Nazi takeover of Ontario!

[Leeches]

Phish is actually Mushmouth and Eddie is planning a Nazi takeover of Ontario!
It might be hard to drive tanks and heavy artillery through the brush up north der.

[hawg]

Can't be any worse than all the hype about Leech from all the business people there. Should say sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce.

[Reels]

Phish is actually Mushmouth

Now that's funny..

[solopaddler]

Phish is actually Mushmouth and Eddie is planning a Nazi takeover of Ontario!

Now that's funny..


I've been laughing off and on all day.:bigsmile:

I was curious about mushmouth so I googled it.

This is copied and pasted from the Urban Dictionary:

"mush mouth 74 up, 29 down
The inability to speak properly because of the genormityness of the person’s lips. Usually referring to African Americans with abnormally large lips and who sound like they are trying to speak with a mouth full of marshmallows."

"That mush mouth just mumbled at me."

[phishfearme]

but the character mushmouth is described as follows:

Mushmouth — Voiced by Bill Cosby. A chinless, linguistically challenged simpleton who always spoke in virtual Ubbi Dubbi, tantamount to an overdose of novocaine in the mouth.

i find it sad that you guys think this is funny - and it reflect much more on you then it does me.

phish

I've been laughing off and on all day.:bigsmile:

I was curious about mushmouth so I googled it.

This is copied and pasted from the Urban Dictionary:

"mush mouth 74 up, 29 down
The inability to speak properly because of the genormityness of the person’s lips. Usually referring to African Americans with abnormally large lips and who sound like they are trying to speak with a mouth full of marshmallows."

"That mush mouth just mumbled at me."

[solopaddler]

i find it sad that you guys think this is funny - and it reflect much more on you then it does me.

phish

Seriously? Nothing was directed at you, and it doesn't reflect anything on anyone.


And yes it was funny.:bigsmile:

[v-bay gord]

I just heard the "thud" of this thread spiraling to the ground.......

[phishfearme]

where did this come from:

"Phish is actually Mushmouth and Eddie is planning a Nazi takeover of Ontario!"

nothing was directed at me???

reading is fundamental.



Seriously? Nothing was directed at you, and it doesn't reflect anything on anyone.


And yes it was funny.:bigsmile:

[HeHooksHimself]

I think the original thread was taken down, but in mid-July there was a thread going around about the MNR and a poster named Mushmouth related the MNR to the gestapo and the holocaust. It was quite over the top and i offered a suggestion that we establish a "mush of the day" through which we would offer something and try to relate it to the holocaust. You might refer to the thread initiated by me called "Suggestion." It and my recent comment were just in fun. Didn't mean it at anyone's expense, Phish. i was just trying to lighten it up. Sooooo, let's all pop a Molson and talk about Canadian fishing! Tight lines all.

[phishfearme]

"mushmouth". i, like solo, had to look it up but was unable to find your definition in the search - "someone asks a simple question and then we blow it out of proportion". if that's what you meant then it is indeed funny - there's lots of examples of this.

many moons ago, someone would launch the "trolling" post - "how do you fillet a 25inch walleye?" - and there would be hundreds of nasty responses before the original poster let on to the gag. haven't seen this one in a while - maybe come next april, we should re-start this funny tradition.

by the way - i also think shore lunch is a major league waste of time.

phish


I think the original thread was taken down, but in mid-July there was a thread going around about the MNR and a poster named Mushmouth related the MNR to the gestapo and the holocaust. It was quite over the top and i offered a suggestion that we establish a "mush of the day" through which we would offer something and try to relate it to the holocaust. You might refer to the thread initiated by me called "Suggestion." It and my recent comment were just in fun. Didn't mean it at anyone's expense, Phish. i was just trying to lighten it up. Sooooo, let's all pop a Molson and talk about Canadian fishing! Tight lines all.

[pike50plus]

Anyone that read the original post understood that you were implying that maybe somebody put people up to mutiple posts? Comeon. lighten up and learn to laugh at even ourselves sometimes, my God!

[pike50plus]

I've been laughing off and on all day.:bigsmile:

I was curious about mushmouth so I googled it.

This is copied and pasted from the Urban Dictionary:

"mush mouth 74 up, 29 down
The inability to speak properly because of the genormityness of the person’s lips. Usually referring to African Americans with abnormally large lips and who sound like they are trying to speak with a mouth full of marshmallows."

"That mush mouth just mumbled at me."

There was a pizza eating champion they showed at least once a month named "MusMouth Mariano Pachetti" That was also funny!

[Reels]

We're just laughing how this post turned out and the history of Mushmouth turning a thread.

If you want it to end, all you have to do is say is.....

"enough already!! "



Sorry, couldnt help it. Warped humor.