I know this is like comparing apples to oranges, but what is the pros and cons and price difference, i need to make a decision on ordering one of these two and i am looking for some input.

I know this is like comparing apples to oranges, but what is the pros and cons and price difference, i need to make a decision on ordering one of these two and i am looking for some input.

Just on my way back from the Rainy River. On the way up I picked up my new 1825 Pro Guide. Spent 3 day fishing and boated many walleyes. Previously I had a 621VS and a 618T. The biggest difference I notices was the way the pro guide came up to plane. With my 618T, the nose took a long time to come down, with the pro guide, the nose never comes up. Now if you are putting a 175 on the 620T it may not be a big deal. If it was up to me, I would save the dollars and get the pro guide.

If you fish where the wind blows hard much of the time... it is pretty much a no-brainer.

I purchased a new 2010 620T. I would purchase a Lund Proguide if you want greater value along with a great product. Lund is made in MN and the dealers will provide better service with problems that develop. Don't believe the fishing pro's, they're being paid off to push their product. The downside is you will sacrifice some performance in ride with aluminum.

Nothing wrong with either boats, i know from experience that lunds have been and still are more fisherman friendly, meaning more comfortable to fish out of. some might not understand but if they do they know where im coming from. Ive fished out of lots of different boats, alumacraft, skeeter, ranger and lund and feel alot more comfortable all day in my lund than in any other boat. Just recently had a ranger salesman try to talk me into one, in the bar having a beer, they are very nice and dry, but he pretty much shut up after i asked him to be honest, which one is more comfortable all day long and more fisherman friendly and he honestly answered lund. he has had lunds and now fishes out of a ranger, he sells both. Are rangers drier? do they ride better in 6 footers? yes. how much? not enough for me to give up fishability and comfortability while fishing. now if i lived on lake of the woods or erie maybe I would go with ranger but man ive had lots of lunds, bought all of them 1-3 years old and have lost very little money on resale, like less than i could buy 2 hds 10's for, and thats 4 boats ive sold.
that being said, my next boat will probably be a glass lund, if not then guess what? yes another tin lund, have had ZERO problems with them.

I know this is like comparing apples to oranges, but what is the pros and cons and price difference, i need to make a decision on ordering one of these two and i am looking for some input.
I have a 186GL Fisherman Its very similar to the ranger with a large front deck for casting and lots of room in the back for planer boarding or downrigging if you do that Have no problem getting up on plane the only thing is its rated for a 175 and could easly handle a 200 or 225

Walleyejig

Where are you using the boat at the most and what horsepower range?

Canada actually, the problem is the cost, basically the two boats set up with 200 vrods, 101 vantages, 101 terrovas, and 2 hds 8's with structure scan.

the Proguide is coming in at 50,000 after taxes and the ranger like 54,000. getting a smoking deal on the ranger. So im not sure what to do.

Lund has 2 livewells the ranger has one. The lund is #285 lighter, I like the rod storage better in the lund, bigger gas tank in the lund, I like the command center better in the lund, can lock it all up and its consealed, more storage in the lund and i think you will like the baitwell better. Seems like the sides are so high in the ranger, like your a baby in a crib and cant get out and ill guarantee if you like to backtroll you will love the lund better.
Now for the ranger, very nice boat, nice trailer, nice ride, PRETTY, and dry, hit any waves the wrong way and one will get wet in anything, period.

Good luck with your purchase, i dont think you will be dissappointed in either ride. Its all personal choice, some guys like men and I prefer women, to each their own.

WJ

The reason I asked where you use the boat is I run Lake of the Woods alot on the Canadian side and and I run a glass boat and you have to more careful about beaching the boat. The Ranger is a custom boat right down to the pinstripes and you can order it any way you want. The storage compartments are dry along with the ride. It is a limited production boat so the resale value is great. Being 4k more might make me take a hard look at the lund. Either way both boats have pros and cons........

Canada actually, the problem is the cost, basically the two boats set up with 200 vrods, 101 vantages, 101 terrovas, and 2 hds 8's with structure scan.

the Proguide is coming in at 50,000 after taxes and the ranger like 54,000. getting a smoking deal on the ranger. So im not sure what to do.

$4k is not much of a difference with the kind of boats you are talking about. With that said I would still buy the Lund because I am a tin-can kind of guy... beer & boats LOL. Love my tin Lund 1825 ProGuide.

The Ranger is much drier.
The Ranger rides better.
The Rangers rod lockers are better.
The Rangers dry storage stays drier.
The Rangers trailer is a better trailer.
The Lunds floor is set higher in the boat.
The Lund has a much, much better livewell system.
The Lund has more interior room.
The Lund backtrolls better.
The interior layout favors the Lund.
The Lund has a better dash panel and a much better bow panel.

Both are very good boats.
Both have good resales, but Ranger 620T's are hard to come by and usually bring top dollar.
Both companies have good reputations.
Both companies have a very loyal following.

Either boat would look good sitting in my garage.

Well I have a 2010 ProGuide and I fish Lake Erie and Canada. Number one it's a tiller, how dry are you going to stay. I stay dry most of the time depending what direction I'm going. The 2010 PG stays on top of those waves real good.

I think you have more rod storage in 2010 PG, if you knock out the caps on the side holders you can put 8 1/2's in there. And 10 rods up front.

The room fishing is a good point. If you get a 2010 PG and get an Eagle trailer, that is a fine trailer.

Nothing is even close to being wrong with the Ranger but it is your money so if you want the Ranger don't let $4000 get in the way. And last but not least I didn't know the ProGuide had got that high priced. But I only have the 175 Opti.

Good luck an enjoy what ever you buy,
Paul

$50,000 for a pro-guide!!?? I would find a pro v if I was spending that much. I was looking for an 18ft tiller and got a pro v instead of pro guide because the pro v has so many more options.

$50,000 for a pro-guide!!?? I would find a pro v if I was spending that much. I was looking for an 18ft tiller and got a pro v instead of pro guide because the pro v has so many more options.
Just got a price today on a new 2012 2010 with 200 verado and came in at $38450.00, with all the upgrades, including the bunk trailer. I've always had pro-v's but am considering the change, what a sweet boat. I think lund is the only way to go if looking for a tiller, especially if doing any backtrolling, would need 6 bilge pumps in the other brand if backtrolling into bigger waves. my $.02

The Ranger is much drier.
The Ranger rides better.
The Rangers rod lockers are better.
The Rangers dry storage stays drier.
The Rangers trailer is a better trailer.
The Lunds floor is set higher in the boat.
The Lund has a much, much better livewell system.
The Lund has more interior room.
The Lund backtrolls better.
The interior layout favors the Lund.
The Lund has a better dash panel and a much better bow panel.

Both are very good boats.
Both have good resales, but Ranger 620T's are hard to come by and usually bring top dollar.
Both companies have good reputations.
Both companies have a very loyal following.

Either boat would look good sitting in my garage.
I'll give ya the drier ride and smoother ride, but not by much, remember this is a tiller. won't give ya anything else though. like the rod storage better in the lund and can get the better trailer for just little for the lund.
that being said its all personal preference, both very very good boats!!!!!!!!

I'll give ya the drier ride and smoother ride, but not by much, remember this is a tiller. won't give ya anything else though. like the rod storage better in the lund and can get the better trailer for just little for the lund.
that being said its all personal preference, both very very good boats!!!!!!!!

Totally not true, Ranger is a ton drier and a better drive. Plus the compartments do not get water in them, the Lund is anything but waterproof.

Now with that said, I went to the MN Sportshow on Sunday and ordered a new 1825 Pro Guide. I like the layout better, more usable room, it's back trolling ability, nice rod storage and lower price point as the key items that moved me. And like you mention, I actually did get the Shorelander custom trailer with aluminum wheels, bunks, etc. for a better look, etc.

The Lund is a nice boat but it's not a Ranger however, but in the end we all like choices.

Just curious on price range for the 1825 pro guide? I looked at them once just because of the price difference between that boat and a 618T. I asked the salesman why there was such a price difference and he said that this boat is not like their ProV's as far as features. Don't really like the fact that the livewell and baitwell don't have separate controls. Many of the things that are standard on every Ranger, are add on's with this setup. It still will probably be much less expensive and would have to see one in person to decide I guess.

Both of these boats would be a great choice. I have been in both of them and the ride really doesn't compare in rough water. Ranger and any other of the top fiberglass boats are more comfortable. Aluminum boats have that brain rattling effect when the boats hits a wave hard. The 2075 Pro V rides nicer that the Pro Guide.

I know of 5 MN guides that ran the Pro Guide for the first year they were available. One of them ran it for 2 years. They have all switched over to the 2075 Pro V and have been running them the last few seasons. I'm not sure why they switched and why they haven't gone back to the Pro Guide.

Just curious on price range for the 1825 pro guide? I looked at them once just because of the price difference between that boat and a 618T. I asked the salesman why there was such a price difference and he said that this boat is not like their ProV's as far as features. Don't really like the fact that the livewell and baitwell don't have separate controls. Many of the things that are standard on every Ranger, are add on's with this setup. It still will probably be much less expensive and would have to see one in person to decide I guess.

It sounds like you and I are running a similar path, I actually sold my Reata 1850 after 3 seasons. Great boat but it doesn't allow me to fish like I'd like. Before that 3 years of running a 618t.

Here's the deal the Pro Guide is about 10k less, at least than a 618t. It'll backtroll better (I've run them both), run about 4mph faster and come out of the hole much better. In the end the Pro Guide will be no more than $25k, and that's with everything on it, that's what I did. The Ranger will push mid 30's. The problem with the 618t is it's a pig for it's size and I don't like the transom near as well for backtrolling and furthermore the Lund will sit more level in the water, better drifting.

How about ride? Last 4 boats have been glass. A little worried about getting beat up in the rough stuff....what motor are you running?

How about ride? Last 4 boats have been glass. A little worried about getting beat up in the rough stuff....what motor are you running?

Won't ride as well, I'd say it's a 25% improvement to ride in glass in a 18' size boat but it's so subjective. The way I look at it 10k will buy me a great rain suit! As for the pounding, it's not that big of difference. Look at how you fish and compare both boats. When you are Lindy Rigging with minnows in the spring do you like to leave your seat to grab a minnow? Bait well/live well placement is a big difference. When you fill the 618t livewell do you like that the boat leans to the port side? Does the boat drift straight?

I'm going to run a 90 Merc 4s, great motor for this boat with high displacement and the new tiller handle. I'd be equally happy with Yamaha or Suzuki. Wouldn't touch a 90 etec on this rig but that's just me.

It sounds like you and I are running a similar path, I actually sold my Reata 1850 after 3 seasons. Great boat but it doesn't allow me to fish like I'd like. Before that 3 years of running a 618t.

Here's the deal the Pro Guide is about 10k less, at least than a 618t. It'll backtroll better (I've run them both), run about 4mph faster and come out of the hole much better. In the end the Pro Guide will be no more than $25k, and that's with everything on it, that's what I did. The Ranger will push mid 30's. The problem with the 618t is it's a pig for it's size and I don't like the transom near as well for backtrolling and furthermore the Lund will sit more level in the water, better drifting.

Talked to a Lund dealer last year and he said 24-25 grand for an 1825 with a 90 merc 4 stroke or Yammie. Add a vantage, terrova on the bow, 2 decent depth finders and probably several other upgrades plus a decent trailer like an Eagle and it is gonna be up there. There are several things standard on the Ranger that would be upgrades on the Pro guide. Have been used to Ranger trailers so I couldn't stand the stock trailer they come with, they are pretty cheesy! Would have to get real numbers from a dealer, but with all the goodies, I can't imagine it being close to 25 grand?? That dealer price was without the extras.......

Talked to a Lund dealer last year and he said 24-25 grand for an 1825 with a 90 merc 4 stroke or Yammie. Add a vantage, terrova on the bow, 2 decent depth finders and probably several other upgrades plus a decent trailer like an Eagle and it is gonna be up there. There are several things standard on the Ranger that would be upgrades on the Pro guide. Have been used to Ranger trailers so I couldn't stand the stock trailer they come with, they are pretty cheesy! Would have to get real numbers from a dealer, but with all the goodies, I can't imagine it being close to 25 grand?? That dealer price was without the extras.......

Not exactly sure I agree with you, both boats are $10k plus apart and both need the same electronics. If you're saying after electronics you'll have a 30k Lund then "yes" I agree with that but you'll also have a 40k Ranger.

As for the trailer I agree with you, that's why I went with a custom trailer and still was underneath the price point you mentioned. It's not a Ranger trailer but it's a very nice trailer no doubt.

I was just wondering if the 25 grand boat was loaded? I know dealers will be different with prices? Yes, I may be adding more to the boat than some and I get that part. Just trying to get an approximate price range I guess....

Proguide it is, i was talking loaded, after taxes ect, so thats why the price is where it is at.

Not exactly sure I agree with you, both boats are $10k plus apart and both need the same electronics. If you're saying after electronics you'll have a 30k Lund then "yes" I agree with that but you'll also have a 40k Ranger.

As for the trailer I agree with you, that's why I went with a custom trailer and still was underneath the price point you mentioned. It's not a Ranger trailer but it's a very nice trailer no doubt.

tbob,
So, how much more for the better trailer? I can just add the options I want in to that, thanks.....

Howdy,

BW.... put down the crack-pipe, don't make eye contact with the Lund, and slowly back away. You have an online reputation to uphold for goodness sakes! Whats next a Tohatsu 4-banger on the transom and a Kawasaki in lieu of the Harley?

So sad,

Ruddiger

Howdy,

BW.... put down the crack-pipe, don't make eye contact with the Lund, and slowly back away. You have an online reputation to uphold for goodness sakes! Whats next a Tohatsu 4-banger on the transom and a Kawasaki in lieu of the Harley?

So sad,

Ruddiger

Thanks for bringing me back to reality!! I was starting to fall for the cheaper boat, but that is what your getting, right? Already run a T8, so the evin(tohatsu) kicker is out and I had a kawasaki before the Harley, never again!!!! Thanks Ruddiger for making me wake up!!! Your a real pal!!!!

2011 1825 pro guide pricing: 23,300 with 80lb vantage, wave whackers, custom top gun snap cover, including all rigging to include swapping my 2 graphs and install my bowmount. Dealer also threw in transducer mounting board and marinco plug in rear for my on-board charge. So BW u r a tad high I'd say.

2011 1825 pro guide pricing: 23,300 with 80lb vantage, wave whackers, custom top gun snap cover, including all rigging to include swapping my 2 graphs and install my bowmount. Dealer also threw in transducer mounting board and marinco plug in rear for my on-board charge. So BW u r a tad high I'd say.

Where is your dealer located? That is one heck of a deal. I price shopped 7 dealers in MN in 2009 and my 1825 was loaded. Proride seats (4), air peds for the seats, wave wackers, bow bait well, snap on cover, vinyl floor, Titan steering on my 90HP4st Yamaha, roller swing tung spare Shorlander trailer, completely rigged with my electronics two TM and two GPS locators. The entire rig without the cost of the electronics in June of 2009 $25,500.

LLewellin sent u a PM

So I guess I wasn't so high? Actually the dealer that is? Yes, you got a good deal, but you used your old electronics, so not a real fair comparison. Anyone wonder why the price is so low on a Lund? Like I said, the dealer said this is not in the same class as the ProV, so less options, etc...As was just stated, the more common price is close to the 25 grand mark, give or take and I still think it would need a bit more on it to be the same as what I am use to. As in terrova on the bow and an 8" and 7" color finders. I have never had a bigger tiller, but think a vantage on the back would be nice too......

25500 is not out of line for upgraded seats and peds, and whats a titan steerinng system cost, certainly a pricey option on any make boat

25500 is not out of line for upgraded seats and peds, and whats a titan steerinng system cost, certainly a pricey option on any make boat

You get can under 25k with everything (4 pro ride, all air rides, vinyl w/snap in carpet, cargo nets, cover, stereo & custom trailer for a 2012. Just did it.

While you can argue the 618t is a nicer finished product, it wont fish as well or perform (top speed or backtroll) like the Lund. I know this as I owned one for 3 years. Different strokes . . .

You get can under 25k with everything (4 pro ride, all air rides, vinyl w/snap in carpet, cargo nets, cover, stereo & custom trailer for a 2012. Just did it.

While you can argue the 618t is a nicer finished product, it wont fish as well or perform (top speed or backtroll) like the Lund. I know this as I owned one for 3 years. Different strokes . . .
Like i said if you wanna look pretty, go with the ranger, if you wanna fish, and have more money in your pocket from start to finish, buy the lund. hands down.

Like i said if you wanna look pretty, go with the ranger, if you wanna fish, and have more money in your pocket from start to finish, buy the lund. hands down.

That's correct and coming from a guy that could buy either. At first I think I liked the idea of having a Ranger (it's almost like a status this), and believe me their boats are darn nice. But when it got down to the core elements of what I needed, layout, fishability, performance all were more important than how pretty my boat looked. Took me six years to realize this but I finally did.

As for a Pro Guide being a dumbed down Pro V, a few things were shaved (doesn't have the better live wells and the hull is a bit thinner gauge aluminum). Other than that you'll be hard pressed to find a tangible differences, if you're concerned about that you're just better off staying with a Ranger.

What sold me is just compare these two rigs on a 15 mph day on a Mille Lacs lake flat in the summer and see which boat is easier to hold/control on the "spot". You'll quickly see that a totally squared stern makes the job easier.

Glad you guys like your boats! That is what it is all about.......

Like i said if you wanna look pretty, go with the ranger, if you wanna fish, and have more money in your pocket from start to finish, buy the lund. hands down.

In this lineup, the proguide is a better deal if you are stictly looking at dollar signs. If you look at the higher end boats, there is virtually no price difference which surprised me? Aluminum prices have gone way up in the last few years and closed the gap. If I was buying a tin boat, Lund is the first one on the list!! Just have a hard time with the ride difference. Every time I think it wouldn't be a big deal, I go fish with my dad in his Mr.Pike 18 and we hit a few waves and I am reminded of why I have a glass boat. Like was said, different strokes........glad we all have choices. Have a great fishing season, we get to start off early for once!!!!!