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rlelvis
03-16-2000, 05:16 AM
I have been using Trilene as a leader with my fireline but want to go to florocarbon this year. Any thoughts on which would be best for this application?
As always thanks and good fishin'.

Phil T.
03-16-2000, 07:54 AM
If your targeted fish have real teeth, buy the flourocarbon leader material. It's more abrasion resistant than the stuff advertised as being useful for a reel filler(they may even be from the same manufacturer). It is also stiffer and harder to knot well.

crash
03-16-2000, 09:10 AM
Seagar makes both kinds, leader mat. and the regular line, I've used both and for eye's I suggest using the line as a leader material. Its gives the bait a much more natural presentation than the leader material that is much stiffer. Most manufacture's dont even make 100% floro in the lighter test, Seagar I know for sure dosn't make it less than 20lb. I've tried other manufactures lines also (Vanish, Stren, triple fish) None of them were as good as Seagar, Vanish came the closest but I just wasn't happy with its abrasion resistence. Most guys are going to run the fireline/floro combo this year and they should notice a big difference like I did last year. More hits = More fish

rlelvis
03-16-2000, 10:05 AM
Thanks for the info!!!

Are you running 20lb for you leader material? It seems a bit heavy. Most of my fishing is in Lake Ontario, very clear. I have been using 12 or 14 mono.

Thanks again and good fishin'.

crash
03-16-2000, 10:36 AM
I use it for saltwater, you can get that stuff up to 150lb test. I was refering to 100% floro witch you'll seldom see any lighter than 20lb, the new lines are a blend that allows them to make it smaller. They (the manufacture's) lie and call it 100% floro, but pure floro is very stiff. The floro line that I use is 6lb by Seagar its called Carbon Pro.

Skeeter Boy
03-16-2000, 10:38 AM
I've been using the Seaguar Carbon Pro both spooled up and as a leader. It works great for me, only took a couple trips netting my fish to convince my somewhat stubborn partner to switch. Cabela's spring 2000 cat. has line from 20lb. down to 4lb. I use the 6lb. and have had no complaints. Enjoy the fight!
Skeeter Boy

Ernie
03-16-2000, 10:40 AM
I am a fan of Fireline and began to use the Flourocarbon for live bait rigs the second half of this last season with good success. I am pretty sure that the Seagar line I am using for snells is 10 lb. test. The stiffness of the line makes the snell knots a bit of a challenge. I had heard that the knot strength could be a problem, but I have not experienced any problems. I plan on using glue with the next batch of snells that I tie.

Gunga Din
03-16-2000, 12:28 PM
It's not so much the knot strength, but the friction caused by cinching down a knot causes the line to weaken at that point. To avoid this, make sure you wet the line before cinching the knot.

The knot holding power is fine--I dont' think you'll need glue.

fisherman
03-17-2000, 12:56 AM
I don't know for sure what you are talking about...but I used 4# Seaugar//like cigar/// all winter as a leader on fireline and outfished my friends every outing..

rlelvis
03-26-2000, 07:01 AM
Thanks and Good Fishin'

Chris Bellin
03-26-2000, 02:54 PM
i just tried the berkly vanish on saturday for steelhead near mishicot, WI. There were 20 people casting near the dam where i was and the only person to catch fish was me. most of the people i saw were using fire line or stren. i think the vanish might be the difference.

PFMN#1
03-26-2000, 03:46 PM
flourocarbon line is great for leader material as it holds up longer because uv light does not affect it like mono. It also is tougher because it is more dense and wil sink 5 times faster than mono. Your spinners won't damage it as much so you should be able to drop down a line class and have more managability. As far as knot strength goes- make sure you tie a good knot the line it self is o.k. but being flouro's don't absorb water you need to wet the heck out of them. Once the knot is in you will be ok. I have been using Vanish and the only problem I have had is managability when I spoool a small spinning reel. I then did the fireline/vanish combo and have had no problem.

rlelvis
03-27-2000, 06:05 AM
Thanks Again

larry g
03-29-2000, 07:20 AM
Have used seagar, vnish, and even the bass pro stuff, all as leader material on my braided lines, using the uni knots never had any problems.Even the cheaper ones are more invisible as far as I'm concerned, but what I really like is the minimum stretch factor, you can get some good long distance hook sets, with out needing to relly rear back on the fish.