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Roger Mayer
06-25-2000, 08:52 AM
I spooled up with fire line. Knots are holding fine but has this ever happened to anyone?

I was fishing and hooked into a fish. As I set I thought my drag was set to light. So I set it then resumed fishing. Got another hit set the hook and the drag was to light again!. After some fiddling around I noticed that the problem wasn't with my drag. The line was turning in the spool with out the spool turning........understand what I mean?

Do I have to re-spool the line or what?

Thanks,

Roger Mayer.

chrism
06-25-2000, 09:23 AM
It is a common problem with the superlines. The fix is easy - just remove the line, and put some mono backing on the spool. Or, you can do as I have done - tie fireline on as normal, but put a piece of tape over the first wrap and on the spool. These fixes will prevent line slippage.
Good luck!

Roger Mayer
06-25-2000, 09:37 AM
How much backing should I use. I have 10 test fire line, 4 pound test diameter.

Also might sound kinda stupid but what kind of tape do you use? Just worried about it getting wet and coming off.

Roger Mayer.

Sluggo / NY
06-25-2000, 10:20 AM
I had the same problem when I first used Fireline. What I do now is put a full wrap of surgical tape on the spool, tie the line on, then make sure the first few wraps are really tight. Haven't had a problem since. Good Fishing, Sluggo

chrism
06-25-2000, 11:05 AM
Use any mono you have for backing - all you need is enough to cover the spool and act as a "grip" for the fireline.
As for tape, anything should work except for maybe scotch tape - I used hockey tape.

Pikeman
06-25-2000, 11:22 AM
Hey Roger, i had this problem last season. When you do the tape thing, i would recomend a half a strip of Duct tape. Water doesn't hurt it, and it works great.

Pikeman

Phil T.
06-25-2000, 12:12 PM
I followed the advice of a website editor, and covered the spool with the electrical tape that's sticky on both sides before spooling up the Fireline. My coworker has a much simpler solution. He ties the Fireline to the spool and then superglues that knot to the spool. When he changes the line or reverses it, the superglue is easily removed with the tip of a sharp kinfe, or if the spool is aluminum, use fingernail polish remover.

cisco
06-25-2000, 01:07 PM
Simple and easy solution for fixed spool spinning reels is to wrap a rubber band around the spool before tying on the line. Works fine and no goo.

Chad
06-26-2000, 06:49 AM
Another tip.

Your reels always work better when completly full of line. There is no need to completly fill the spool with fireline unless it has a small capacity. Load the reel up with mono backing first. I prefer to use higher test like 15lb so it doesn't take as long. Leave about a 1/4 to inch for the fire line and the fill the spool.

My partner couldn't figure out why I wold always have my fish reeled in quick and it took him forever. He just have fireline on the spool w/o backing. This only filled about 1/3 of the spool. This would be like running 10" tires on my Tahoe. It would take forever.

mountain man
06-26-2000, 09:57 AM
My suggestion and I'm not being sarcastic is to use Mono. It was designed for your rod your reel and your fishing conditions and doesn't require juryrigging and changes to work. My partner still
laughs when somebody near us tears the hook right out of a fish using(superlines); and he's only 14. If he can figure it out what about us adults.
Lawrence

Hans
06-26-2000, 12:49 PM
Then your 14-year old friend has never enjoyed the advantage of the superlines coupled with a great rod. After using superlines for a few years, and having the incredible sensitivity, going back to mono would be like have sex wearing a leather mitten on my "unit".

Hans

--
"There is nothing; absolutely nothing; half so much worth doing,
as simply messing about in boats." :-)

Andrew
06-26-2000, 02:08 PM
Now that was a hilarious, and true statement!
I was fishing my ultrlight rig this past weekend. Haven't used it in a couple years. 6lbs mono felt like I was fishing with fire gloves on. You can't tell if your lure is running correctly, you can't tell bottom consistancy, talk about deaf, dumb and blind.
Give me 6/30 Spiderwire any day. You just can't beat it. It lasts forever, you lose less lures, and you feel fish breath on your lure!

hartwig
06-26-2000, 04:47 PM
I wouldn't recommend using tape, it tends to get the spool goopy. I would follow the advice above and use fairly heavy mono backing. Personally I only use superlines in special situations. Having to retie often, and fishing clear waters weans you off the braids. They are great for murky, snag-filled rivers, salt water and in-line planers, though. (Was traveling once, and found some snook. Problem was that I only had a small spinning rod full of 6# mono. 25 to 32" snook killed me till I went to the store and spooled up w/ 30 lb spider wire. It saved me from haveing to buy a heavier rod and reel. I suggest keeping a spool of it in your box when traveling to unknown waters.) Does anyone here find that the line doesn't spook fish in clear water--just wondering. Good Luck.

mountain man
06-26-2000, 07:01 PM
Tried them all and still use 6lb HI VIS STREN. don't seem to need that extra edge "superlines give ya, I'm talking about jigging here, have heard the stories about extra feel, line size(that makes sense) and durability but actually I haven't noticed a big difference. Can you suggest what pole is necessary to use this line to its greatest advantage since all it seems to do is eat up reels for me. Ofcource my budget is limited no more than $60 for a rod. and about $80
for reel. again I am not being sarcastic, I would love to find the ultimate jigging combination for ultimate jigging, but I would like my five kids to eat too. Lawrence

larry g
06-27-2000, 04:00 AM
I had the same problems when I startes using the super linesA solution that I found that worked rather well, was wrap a few turns and the if your reel comes with a line keeper, just slip your line intoit, and keep winding.If you are going to only use the line for casting, then why spool up the whole spool, use backing and just use about 30 yds[which is about a good casting distance. However if you are going to troll, then use the whole thing, backing will kill the effect of the line if it is on the water.Remember the caution they give you about trying to free any snags you may run into, that stuff will cut you like a razor.

Matt
06-27-2000, 04:43 AM
I have a few extra empty spools, a cordless drill and a few nuts and bolts. I use this system to fill all of my reels to capacity. If my spool of fireline or spiderwire wasn't enough to fill my spinning reel or baitcaster I tie on some mono and keep filling right to the top, over full by just a little. Then I zip it off with an old spool chucked up in my cordless drill. Zip it to another spool. Now the mono is on the top. Then wind it back on my reel. Now my reel is completely full.

Hans
06-27-2000, 08:53 AM
Among my jigging rigs is a Shimano Sahara 1000 mounted on a Fenwick HMX 6'6" Med/Light rod. I think I paid $55 for the rod, and maybe $60 for the reel. I have this spooled with 10/2 SpiderWire, and it's sensitive enough to feel the walleye THINKING about nibbling on it!

Try it, you'll like it!

Hans

--
How doth the little crocodile improve his shining tail,
And pour the waters of the Nile, on ever gleaming scale?
How cheerfully he seems to grin, and neatly spreads his claws,
And lures little fishes in, with gently smiling jaws. --Lewis Carroll

;-)





--
"There is nothing; absolutely nothing; half so much worth doing,
as simply messing about in boats." :-)

AquaMan
06-27-2000, 09:29 AM
Roger,

Go with the mono backed spool. It is the most efficient a tried/true method for the super lines. It works on spinning and baitcasting reels perfectly. Saves on the expensive line as well.

AquaMan~~~~~~~~~~~~~