Walleye

[Erika Crispo]

I am taking a university course this summer and I need to know what fish the walleye is related to and what physical attributes distinguish the walleye from other fish. If you know the answers please email me at erika_crispo@hotmail.com. Thank you very much for your help.
Erika

[cisco]

Erika -- I doubt that your professor would approve of your method of research. Certainly the university has a library. Visit the place.

[FJH1]

Cisco, I completely agree. I started a post regarding this as well but got pulled away. The internet is a great tool, but I think it's a little cheap to have others do your research for you. Erika, if you want to use the internet, do the RESEARCH, look for your answers through various search engines.... This is how you LEARN. It is hard to learn by regurgitating others' answers.

Best Regards,

FJH

[I'll help a little,]

It is very easy to tell a walleye from other fish.
1) Walleyes don't like being in my live well, so just look at what is in there. They are not walleyes.
2) Unlike many other fish walleyes have two very large, leathery, pectoral fins
3) A walleye is a voracios eater and will regularly eat six or seven cattle in one day.
4) They have a beak for eating honey.
5) unlike other fish, walleye have three razor sharp dorsal fins for ripping open boat huls.
6) Walleye have large eyes that are light sensitive, so, if you see a fish, with three dorsal fins and a beak, attacking a boat and wearing sunglasses, it is a walleye.
7)Every other fish isn't a walleye.

[cisco]

Add to that list the fact the Biblical whale in which Jonah spent time was, in fact, a walleye. Recent studies of the original Greek and Hebrew confirm that "walleye" got lost in translation.

[Jim Stedke]

Erika, We aren't all quite that sarcastic, but if part of your assignment includes using the internet, let us know. This is the best place for walleye information, and I don't want you to go away with hurt feelings. The walleye is cloely related to the Zander. It is the largest member of the perch family, so of course it it related to the perch. Also it is related to the sauger and in fact in Ohio the ODNR cross breeds walleye and Sauger to create a "Saugeye" which they stock in many inland lakes. Distinguishing markings are black spot at the rear of the dorsal fin, white spot on the bottom of the tail,large milky colored eyes for night vision, and teeth. That ought to give you enough starting points to do further research. Good luck

[smally]

way to go jim. you chose not to get on some sort of moral high ground and hepled out when asked too. you are to be congratulated. there is way too much self-righteous garbage spewing forth from this board.

smally

p.s. good luck erika!

[Jim]

Hey,

Some of you guys should settle down. I teach at a University in California (Not Biology). I like if my students do research on the internet, it shows that they are willing to research there subject beyond the internet. One of the best ways to learn is to ask other people.

Some of the guys earlier said that it was unfair to make others do your research. This was a rather ignorent statement. Most of the people on here know the features of a walleye and could easily explain it to someone else.

If the next time one of you came on here and asked a question about deep water jigging, and the people on here told you to go to the magazine store and buy a walleye insider to figure it out your self, how succesful would this forum be? I think we all know the answer.

If i don't know the answer to something at work, one of the first things i will do is ask someone. I have gone on the internet before to talk to others in my profession about how to solve a certain problem etc.

To be honest with you, the library is old fassion. Students don't work as well if they are forced to read a book all day. Going on the net is a great way to learn by interacting with others.


Jim

[schaefer]

Excellent point Jim. Who cares whether she learns about walleyes in the library or on the net, as long as she is learning! Good Luck with your class Erika. Marty

[smally]

oh baby!!!! now that is a great response to a few ignorant responses posted earlier. only wish i would have thought of it.

[smally]

oh baby!!!! now that is a great response to a few ignorant responses posted earlier. only wish i would have thought of it.

[gaspergoo]

If this guy teaches, I hope he doesn't subtract for spelling errors!

[crash]

What are you the spelling police? jeees lighten up guys, this isn't comedy central. Yea it may seem funney as your typing it, but its a real good way of making people think that this site is filled with nothing but @$$hole$. Witch we all know it isn't.

[Neal/Co]

No #####! Who cares where she finds her research info. You guys should be flattered that she thought enough of your knowledge on the subject to ask. I thought this was suppose to be the information highway?

[FJH1]

Jim, you must have interpreted my reply different from the way I intended. I graduated college in 1988, the internet was still not main-stream and very few students had personal computers (I didn't have one at home until last year). Today is completely different. I would venture to guess that the majority of students have personal computers in their dorm rooms. The internet is a wonderful research tool. Erika chose to be very direct in her research and simply asked for the answer to her university course question outright. In my opinion this is not conducive to "learning". This is why I chose not to answer her question. If you feel this was ignorant of me, so be it. In my opinion learning comes through a process of understanding. If you regurgitate an answer that was given to you do you learn?

Best Regards,

FJH

[Alittle more]

Well, well. Lighten up a little gentlemen. I was the class clown in school and I am still a class clown. I said nothing to belittle the young lady. Of course she should be applauded for asking for help here. As long as her teacher/professor allows the use of the internet. Where should she go, Cars Are Us . com?

[crash]

I see your point, but you've got to realize that THIS is the manual, book, and guide to Walleye. If somebody was to pick up a book they would find the same (if not completly wrong) answer. This person probally did a search for walleye and found this site. Hows that different from going to a card catalog in a library and finding a book? Everything you've learned is nothing other than memorizing the answers anyway, weither you got it from a book or by word of mouth. Its how you apply that knowledge that shows weither or not you learned anything. I'm pretty sure that the project that this person is working on is more detailed than what does a Walleye look like. We have no problem getting on here and complain about the non-sence that takes place on the water and the morons behind it (jet-skiers, polluters, poachers, boat ethics, meat hunters, nets, ect.) why be one of those kind of people on here? Sometimes its better just to not say anything than hurt peoples feelings for a joke.

[FJH1]

>We have no problem getting on here
>and complain about the non-sence
>that takes place on the
>water and the morons behind
>it (jet-skiers, polluters, poachers, boat
>ethics, meat hunters, nets, ect.)
>why be one of those
>kind of people on here?
>Sometimes its better just to
>not say anything than hurt
>peoples feelings for a joke.

I made no joke in my reply and did not intend to hurt any feelings. I don't feel that I'm a "moron".

Best Regards,

FJH

[Backwater Eddy]

(: The board is on a role today! Funny stuff!! LOL!

[RANGER]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-00 AT 02:43PM (CST)[p]Ladies and Gentlemen, I think we have lost sight of the original post.

Erika, this sight is loaded with info, tour around it and take a look. There are other sights, as well: www.in-fisherman.com; www.zoo.utoronto.ca/FUN/Fish.html; www.walleye.com. This will get you started and within each are TONS of other links. I would like to help as much as I can but I am not sure where you are looking. Jim Stedke has already given you the "basics". I am not a biologist nor am I an expert on the Walleye and I could step off the train, here.

Enjoy your research and maybe, someday, if you get really interested in Walleyes, and, possibly fishing for them, we'll see you "on the water"!

RANGER

"KEEP YOUR LINES WET, YOUR POWDER DRY and THE BEER COLD"!

[crash]

my apoligies if it offended you FJH, I say things more to the mass's on here then one person in general. Sometimes my rants run a little overboard...I was ASSuming things agian, look what that got us on the "is it legal" post where everybody is ASSuming things. Sorry for the mud slinging in your direction.

[Backwater Eddy]

OK-I am a older then average student in college (38), and as of one year ago I couldn't even find the on key of a computer. The college system now is keyed to include internet search building skills into every course I take, and also stress's the old book and binder approach too.

Man I would be dam lost in setting up research papers now without the use of a computer! The direction the world is heading we all need to learn these skills to survive in the current job market. I find knowing were to look more important then how you manage to look for it, if that makes any logic?

But, some days I wish I could toss this computer out the window, but then I restart it, again, and life is better, tell the next time.

"Backwater Eddy"-- (Older and Dumber then average Student)

[Neal/CO]

Well said ranger. We are supposed to be the ambassadors of our sport, what better way to insure that this great pastime is passed down to future generations than to share the knowledge. If we don't answer her questions I'm sure the people at Peta will be more than happy to "enlighten her".

[FJH1]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-00 AT 02:53PM (CST)[p]No problem Crash. Once I looked back I see that part of your post was directed in other directions. Boy, all this discussion over one little question, I love this site.

Best Regards,

FJH

[Backwater Eddy]

OK-I am a older then average student in college (38), and as of one year ago I couldn't even find the on key of a computer.

The college system now is keyed to include internet search building skills into every course I take, and also stress's the old book and binder approach too.

Man I would be dam lost in setting up research papers now without the use of a computer! The direction the world is heading we all need to learn these skills to survive in the current job market. I find knowing were to look more important then how you manage to look for it, if that makes any logic?

But, some days I wish I could toss this computer out the window, but then I restart it, again, and life is better, tell the next time.

"Backwater Eddy"-- (Older and Dumber then average Student)

[EAGLE EYES]

Erika, Go to the Minnesota DNR home page click on Fishing under outdoor activities. Then click on walleye. Here you will find all the information you need. on the bottom of that page click on More information,now you will definately have all the info you'll need! Good luck with your assignment.

[eyewinder]

Then again, Erika's post could be intended to stimulate contributors to this message board to demonstrate its dynamics through their varied answers to her (relatively) simple, straight-forward question.
It's pretty amazin' where we go with some of these things!

[FJH1]

Very funny Eyewinder. Give a monkey a pile of blocks and eventually he'll build a replica of the Empire State Building.

Best Regards,

FJH

[MR.Pike]

Great responses so far, But aren't we missing somebody here. HHHHMMM <;{{{{<<( Mr.Pike

[Gilligan]

Jim

Thanks for leaving the informative post for the young lady. You show the class that makes Walleye Central special.

As for some of the other posts: We all could find much of the information we ask for here by doing a computer search. You wouldn't like it if someone answered you that way. If the Prof allows it what's the big deal? I have 2 college kids that use internet the same way with teachers approval.

[Jim]

Hey,

Sorry, as you can tell i am not an english teacher either!
Jim

[wayne]

A few other people think you are.

[Scott]

Eric looks like you got a good response. Alot more here than at walleye.com. Good luck.

[cisco]

Good, contemporary college and university libraries don't have "card catelogs" anymore -- have not had for some time. Indeed, a better name is "learning center," but I'm traditional enough to prefer "library" and to know how to use one. Students can access the library from their dorm rooms, computer labs, and offices. Research, my friends, is not going to a chat room or bulletin board and asking a question. As for the attack on spelling police, consider this -- a guy makes claim to being a professor in a short post, then writes "there" (their), "ignorent" (ignorant), "succesful" (successful), and "old fassion" (fashioned). We ought not accept sloppy research, nor should we tolerate professorial carelessness. He excused himself by saying he was not an English teacher. Would the same logic permit errors in calculations for professors of disciplines other than math?

Students do not pay tuition to come here.

[Eyesore]

Mr Pike, do you mean jeff or me?

[Erika Crispo]

Also, how do you tell the difference between a walleye and a darter? I believe they are both from the perch family.
Erika

[Erika Crispo]

As for those of you who question why I am using the internet for research, this is a distance education course and I am not within close distance to the university library. There were no good books at the public library. Thanks to those who have sent me emails. They have been helpful.

[MR.Pike]

Eyesore, neither!! I was waiting for Ericka to jack some of the responders up! As far as you and Jeff, I can "appreciate" anyones opinion on a public forum. I get a kick out of how personal and emotional some of these topics get responded to. All in all, I think I could still count on ANY of the regulars here to help me out if ever need be. This really is one of the BEST sites on the internet. Good Day<;{{{{{<<( Mr.Pike