: Walleye to get new scientific name.


bigfish1965
03-02-2004, 03:24 PM
Walleye are now being renamed to belong to the genus 'Sander' from 'Stizostedion '. This is to reflect the genetic relation to the common Zander of Europe. The genetic make up is so close that they are considered nearly the same fish now.Since the Zander was classified before the walleye, the Sander genus remains.

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Western Walleye Editor
03-02-2004, 04:49 PM
Where did you hear about this?

From what I see, Zander is Stizostedion lucioperca and Walleye is Stizostedion Vitreum???


Honsie

bigfish1965
03-02-2004, 05:35 PM
Got the info from a Canadian site. I will get a referral for you.

bigfish1965
03-02-2004, 05:38 PM
Here's the article...

http://www.fishontario.com/news/index.html#notawalleye

A snippet from the above article by Lonnie King (who is a great fisher and the soon-to-be father of pole fishing in Canada)

The scientific names of walleye and sauger change from Stizostedion vitreum and Stizostedion canadense to Sander vitreus and Sander canadensis respectively. This reflects the fact that European zander (Sander lucioperca), walleye, and sauger are so closely related that they are considered to be of the same genus. Rules governing taxonomy give priority to the first species documented.

bigfish1965
03-02-2004, 07:09 PM
I received my new Ontario Out of Doors magazine today and it was in there as well.

Weyes1
03-03-2004, 09:38 AM
Go to www.ask.com
check fishing zander
here is the scientific name for Zander: Stizostedion lucioperca
Here is the page I got it from:
http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3dFis h%2bZander%26o%3d0%26page%3d1&q=Fish+Zander&u=http%3a%2f%2ftm.wc.ask.com%2fr%3ft%3dan%26s%3da% 26uid%3d0DE47C0D59237A304%26sid%3d117EBA104DF00640 4%26qid%3d606B07926885AF4E813D4ADA4EB94742%26io%3d 9%26sv%3dza5cb0d88%26o%3d0%26ask%3dFish%2bZander%2 6uip%3d428ed308%26en%3dte%26eo%3d-100%26pt%3dZander%2b(Stizostedion%2blucioperca)%26 ac%3d16%26qs%3d6%26pg%3d1%26ep%3d1%26te_par%3d101% 26te_id%3d%26u%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.daiwasports.co.u k%2fwoa%2fspecies%2fzander.htm&s=a&bu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.daiwasports.co.uk%2fwoa%2fspec ies%2fzander.htm&qte=0&o=0

Hope this helps,


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Weyes1
Kevin Clark
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Raybob
03-03-2004, 10:10 AM
-> I 1st heard about the name change last July/03 on Ohio Sea Grant:
http://www.sg.ohio-state.edu/discus/messages/13/101.html?1057773007

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By Fred Snyder, Ohio Sea Grant Extension (63.237.157.252 - 63.237.157.252) on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 01:50 pm:

Goodbye, Stizostedion vitreum, it's been good to know ye.

When the American Fisheries Society publishes the sixth edition of "Names of Fishes" later this year, Stizostedion won't be among them. The great minds of taxonomy have decided that the genus name use in Europe, Sander, is a "senior synonym" to Stizostedion. Walleye will now be Sander vitreus. The species name, vitreum, had to be changed to vitreus to agree with the masculine gender of Sander. Sauger will become Sander canadensis (currently Stizostedion canadense) for all the same reasons.

In other headline news, chinook salmon will be capitalized to appear as Chinook salmon as part of a federal recognition of a Washington state Indian tribe by the same name.

Will those walleye taste the same when they become a plate full of Sander?



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hgmeyer
03-03-2004, 10:53 AM
Well that settles that... I need a new boat, new rods/reels, baits, everything... yoo hooo!!!

Weyes1
03-03-2004, 12:30 PM
The Genus of Sander refers to rough fish like drum and carp
They haven't changed it yet that I have found, the Zander and the walleye still fall under the Genus of Stizostedion.
I hope they don't change the classification of the walleye to the same as a drum or carp.


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Weyes1
Kevin Clark
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Raybob
03-03-2004, 12:53 PM
I just took a look at the most recent update ~ I still see the Words -- "recommended changes"

http://www.fisheries.org/html/fisheries/F2807/F2807p38-39names.pdf

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The “Names of Fishes” list, including
recommended changes in fish names:
Chinook salmon for chinook salmon, and
Sander to replace Stizostedion for the
sauger and walleye

Snyder- OH Sea Grant
03-03-2004, 12:56 PM
Let me offer a clarification to the earlier comment that the genus Sander are related to rough fish, including carp and drum.

Sander is a genus in the perch family - Percidae. This family includes yellow perch, walleye, darters, sauger, and surprisingly, the invasive Eurasian ruffe which currently is found in Lakes Superior and Huron.

Carp are in the minnow family - Cyprinidae. This includes most freshwater bait minnows as well as goldfish - a very large family. They are classified considerably lower than the perch in what's called 'phylogenetic classification,' basically the evolutionary scale.

Drum are members of the drum family - Sciaenidae. Our sheepshead is the only freshwater member of the family, which includes such saltwater stars as redfish, weakfish, sand trout, croaker, spot and others. It may be hard to swallow, but drum are more advanced on the evolutionary scale than the perch family.

Fred Snyder
Ohio Sea Grant

Knute Tjernaagen
03-04-2004, 12:25 PM
Here in N.D. its dis simple. Ve get gold Volleye and gray Volleye. Some go nord to get Green volleye.

Eyeusta
03-04-2004, 07:30 PM
Great, now when I say I went out after a Sander they'll think I went shopping at Black & Decker............

Jeff G.
03-05-2004, 03:27 AM
Why the use of Latin for species identification? If they truelly are going to use the species first designation, it likely was not at all a Latin name. Scientists can really get full of themselves!

Capitonis Bullatusum!

T. Hammer
03-05-2004, 03:37 AM
Only for the drum! I have yet to spot a "Drum Central" website, or "Deepwater Drum Techniques" or Al Lindner doing a segment on "Finessing Drum"... lol!