log lining jigs

[stinger]

I know that there are alot of people that long line jigs all I do is lose them! Could I get some of the basics from you veteran long liners?

[Why don't you learn how to spell?]

If you fish like you spell your in trouble. Everytime
I see a post from you, you screw it up.

[Skeeter]

Why don't you learn to spell before you come here. Hope
you fish better than you spell.

[Gabby_SD]

wrong forum guy, this isn't English 101. The man is asking a question about fishing, either answer it or shut-up.

[Dave]

looks like he needs to learn how to operate computer

[WAeyes]

Now there is some cabin fever! Too cold for ice fishin? Your buddy outfish ya? Just a little grumpy today?

[Terry/JNR]

I lose giggs two if I trie two log lin.

[Terry/JNR]

What the h*** is the difference how somebody spells?! He asked a ligitimate question. Answer the question, or can't you? he probally could outfish you, too.

[Unless you know him]

If this is an inside joke, you should let someone know this with a smiley fasce or type "inside joke". If it is not a joke, why don't you grow up? Just bekuz someone spless something wrong or has a typo is not an invitation for any idiot to chime in.

[Surgen]

If YOU fish as bad as YOUR usage is, YOU'RE in trouble. Learn to use the English language before you shoot your mouth (or keyboard) off at someone for having "fat" fingers when he or she is typing. This person was probably nervous about posting a question. Man, I hate even to post around here any more. If I'm not asking a stupid question, I'm making someone mad by saying I like something different than they like. I see the real questions don't even get answered on this board any more. The only thing anyone responds to is controversy. Of course now I'm doing it too. My apologies to those of you who are serious at least part of the time and can joke when the situation calls for it. GO GIANTS!

PS I will not be held responsible for any spelling or grammer errors on this post.

[Hutch tackle & guide services]

Hey stinger if your really sincere, mail me privately and I'll try to help you out. This way I won't have to worry if I miss spell a word. HUTCH jigman@mhtc.net

[Beetle]

I read 8 replies to this guy's question and only 1 good enough to give him his answer. Oh, what a world , what a world!
ER, make that 9.

[Backwater Eddy]

Choice of jig styles and also choice of plastics make a big difference in long line jig trolling.

My personal preferences for long line jig trolling are 1/4 to 1/2 oz. standup heads rigged with a 4-5"Sassy shad, 4" Mr.Twister, or a large minnow.

This standup style jig head will plain over an snake through more structure then a ball head jig an produces a crankbait style wobble at most speeds. Rip's through weed's well too.

Know were your jig will run at a set speed! Experiment with this and if need be, write it down in a notebook for reference later, this is very handy when fishing suspended fish on a basin.

Other styles of jigs will run differently and sink faster on turns or between waves, so with each style make speed & weight note's along with line wt.

A line counter reel is a handy tool but not a essential one. If you keep a close eye on the line out and have a system of your own that works, go for it.

Hope this help's.

BE........><,,>

[Neal/CO]

Eddie, will the stand up and sassy shad combo make for a good snap jigging combo also? I really want to try that next spring.

[Backwater Eddy]

Yup-yup, handy rig over weeds, wood, sand, rock, and mud.

[Zach]

I know we are all getting tired of the "spelling police" that have been roaming this board, and I sincerely apologize for all of Walleye Central for the behavior of these rude individuals.

Zach

[Minnesota]

I do quite a bit of long line trolling with jigs in shallow water for walleyes. Here is some of the stuff that works for me-

1. Use as light of a jig as you can get away with.
2. If you dress the jig with plastic, do so in a weedless manner. Kind of like you would do on a ribber crawler when you are Carolina rigging for bass.
3. Use mono. It has a larger diameter and it takes less speed to keep it up off the bottom and it allows you to put the jig farther away from the boat without having it hit bottom.
4. Try standup jigheads like the Bait Rigs Odd Ball or the Northland Lipstick. When you drag them the nose of the jig points down and the hook stands up, clear of the bottom. I am going to try some Bait Rigs Slo Poke Grubmasters for this type of presentation this year as well. They are light and to me they seem like they would work great for this presentation.
5. If you are trolling very shallow, use your gas motor. I read some studies on underwater noise last spring and I quit using my electric in very shallow water. Believe me, it makes a difference. I have been in tournaments where this has been the key factor so the theory does hold merit.

I hope this helps and good luck!

Minnesota

[Neal/CO]

Excellent post thanks!!! Also try the aspirin heads from Cabellas. Nothing is 100% snag proof but these helped in the rocks last year.

[Mattman]

Northland also has a "Stand-Up Fireball" that is great for dragging. IMHO much better than the lipstick for this application.

I'm glad to see a couple of legitimate posts.

[Beetle]

And if I can be of anymore help, just yell. Herb

[stinger]

Sorry for the spelling error, I didn't think my english teacher was on this board! I am not the greatest keyboard whiz as you can tell. Just enjoy learning more about fishing. Oh ya Skeeter if you got a problem with the way I spell don't read my posts. I've enjoyed your posts in the past and will continue to read them, but with a much sharper eye for the proper punkchewwaytion.
As for you guys that answered my post thanks for the help it will be very helpful..............

[GORD]

Long line jigging is like any other presentaion. There is a time and a place, a reason for it, and a way to do it for the situation you are facing. A rubble rock bottom will eat your jigs. A clean flat sandy bottom is good. One of my favorite applications for this technique is slowly and silently wind ( light breeze )drifting along the outer sandy edge of a weed line. There are many weed beds. Know where they are. Match the wind. Simply choose an east/west weed bed when there is an east/west breeze etc. A light current works if there is no wind. Long lining a jig has less of a spooking effect in shallow water because it's away from the boat. You can drift parralel to shore at the "depth of the day" or along the edge of structure. I like to minimise line stretch by using fire line with a 2 foot piece of mono on the end. By varying line length and jig weight,style,dressing,bait etc. it is possible to drift just above the bottom without touching it. Long lining jigs is a great technique but can sometimes have a small window of oppertunity. Be rigged and ready. Be prepared to change with the conditions. Simply listening to a weather band radio the night before and then again in the morning will give you a big head start over most guys. Those radios are one of the things most pros "forget" to tell you about. You'll hear a lot of them if you are ever at a tournament site. Keep one in your boat. A map of the lake a compass and a pencil are also good to have.

[SUPERTROLLER]

I make extensive use of Whistler jigs. Match weight of jigs used/needed to speed of drift or troll. I tip with shad tails or grubs. The propeller gives a lot of lift and you'll need to go heavier than a plain jig. That lift keeps it off bottom and the spinning blade is an attention getter. (Another "secret" bites the dust!)

[BD aka The Mad Troller]

The Whistler jigs do work as you say and I have used them with success. I also like the swiming type jigs esp. if there are a lot of rocks or other snags in the area you're fishing. I prefer to backtroll, using mono, when trolling jigs.

[Jim O]

>Why don't you learn to spell
>before you come here. Hope
>
>you fish better than you spell.
>

Hey Skeeter(2): if I may make a suggetion. As you where made aware, there was a "skeeter" on this board who was a contributor of information long before you showed up using the same name.
Out of respect for him and those who might not yet know you are using the same name (although I think he gave it up do to embarrasing posts such as this one) how about sharing your fishing knowledge. IF you happen to be a tutor, then craft your trade where it does most good.
If everyone was perfect, all the fish would be gone.
Be safe,
Jim Ordway

[stinger ND]

What a GREAT RESPONSE!!!!!!!!! Thanks everyone

[RMB]

Could you enlighten me on the gas vs. electric motor in shallow water theory? I guess I've never heard that one before and I have personally had much better success trolling 3 way spinners and rapalas in shallow water with my bow mount electric than with the outboard. Only trouble is, it sure drains the batteries down faster. The curiosity is killing me....please share....