Message Board Delays?

[BD]

Why does it take hours, at times, for a reply or subject to be posted? Is there a moderator checking for content, or a "key word" alert in effect holding up threads until a post or reply can be checked? Just wondering.

"An angler is a man who spends rainy days sitting around on the muddy banks of rivers doing nothing because his wife won't let him do it at home." --- Irish saying

[Juls_I]

Most of the time, just hitting "refresh" will update the page for you.

Juls

[mikemcadams]

I have also been noticing horrible delays (ie. 3-5 minute) load times. I am not sure whether it is my ISP or the message board, but I have not noticed delays with most other sites. The other site which seems slow is Cabela's, but given that spring is sprung in the South I am not suprised. ;-)

Regards,
SwampFoxOfVA

[Sunshine]

Message board has definetely slowed down lately. There have been times when I have left walleyecentral all together to surf and when I returned I still had to refresh threads to read them. What's up?

[Nofish]

Hey Gang,

Most of the time, the delay in new posts being added to threads is not the sites fault. It has more to do with your ISP updating their DNS logs, and at what rate that is done.

More often than not, it is your puter that needs the kick. I have mine set to refresh/look for new versions of any page, everytime I go to it. This is done in your advanced settings, on your computer.

You may also want to clear your browsers cache files. If you have not done this in a while, things will suddenly, take very long times to load or update.

Have fun.......R

[Golden]

The server is just fine and running at 100% capacity.

That means it's on your end. Clear your cache, check with your ISP for any connection problems.

I run at 31,200 and have absolutely no problems with the site or the board and I know most people run at a faster connect than I do.

Scott

[TBO/MN]

How do I empty my browser cache??? Doesn't it do itself??

Good Fishin'
TBO/MN

[Nofish]

Hey TBO,

I can do mine a couple of ways. If you are on AOL, click on settings. A window will pop down. Click on preferences. Then click on Intenet Properties (www). You will have the option to delete all your temporary internet files. Do this and also delete all offline content.

You can also do this through Windows explorer. Click on Windows explorer from the start menu. Then, on the left side of the screen, find the heading that says windows. Click it. On the right side you will either see the windows files or a white screen with a prompt. Click the prompt if it is there. If not, click Temporary Internet files.

Once you have opened the files, click on Edit from the task bar. Then click on select all. All temp internet files will be highlighted. Move the cursor over to the delete box on the task bar and click it. You will then have a pop up box appear asking if you wish to delete the selected cookies. If you do want this click yes, if you do not, click no.

All the temp internet files will be gone and the cookies will or wont be there, depending on what you selected.

That is how I do it. Just remember, I am only a two fisted typing, shaved down ape when it comes to computers. I had to learn this from a book, for my system. I am not sure about yours. I also go by the line, "If you give a chimp a gun...and the chimp shoots someone....do you blame the chimp?

But my best advice? Go buy a book about using your Operating system, Windows 98 etc. and read up on how to do this for your computer. You can also check with your internet provider, to see if there is a way to clear the browser while on line too.

Have fun.......R

[FlyBoy]

Hey Golden,

I know you are the head dude around here, but between the "DNS logs" and 100% capacity, I have to ask some questions (or make some statements)

1) DNS Logs, as far as I know, has nothing to do with it. If your ISP had a cache-ing web server, maybe, but it still has nothing to do with DNS, that simply points the clients computer to the server (I know the DNS stuff wasn't your post, but I was trying to get a 2 for 1 sale)

2) If the server is running at 100% capacity, doesnt that mean it is full? (i.e. out of capacity)

I started checking messages about 4:30 today, and all was fine... Then about 5:30 it started to drag considerably. I would guess everyone got home from work, and started hammering the server. I'm on the web at 500k at home, and 768k at work.. And have seen slow downs from both locations...

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the 'slow downs' are excessive or a problem. Not at all. Its fairly rare, and not so bad you can use it when they do hit. I just wanted to try to clear a few things up. I can just see some of the 'less computer literate' (aol users) :) trying for hours to fix something that isn't broken. (Everyone should clear their temp. internet files, it won't hurt)

Thanks for your consideration (sucking up to the boss)

-John

[AquaMan]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-14-01 AT 07:18PM (CST)[p]Running at 7Gig at the office and 56K at home, I have not noticed a change in the systems speed. Realize that the two systems (work vs home) are worlds apart in terms of performance, but neither has shown any indication of a server related bug. However, I have my refresh rate set for each new page or I refresh(Reload) manually so I can see my posts immediately. This is important for our eBay sales as well.

For those that don't understand, your PC "Caches" or saves the images, documents, etc that you look at the most so that it can load and opperate faster instead of traveling down the pipe each time you look at that page. However, it does not always know that a change has taken place on the page you were looking and and puts up the same image that coincides with the web address thereby speeding your image rendering.

Unless you computer has replaced that address or image in the cache with another image, say from another site or document, the same one appears. Most systems can "save" 3-12 web pages before a reload is required by the system. Some of the bigger ones can save 50 or more before a refresh is required.

Clicking the "refresh" or "reload" button on your browser will typically force the computer to go to the website and download the newly changed page.

The slow downloads recently can be attributed to the enormous activity on the internet over all. The recent virus wave has done more then effect a few remote businesses. Of my 300 clients (10 fortune 500) 48 were effected and 12 disabled. In an attempt to cure the problem, billions of non-typical activity was registered nation-wide as business and individuals were downloading mission critical data. This stacked the pipeline.

That is the log jam right now. Just be patient and all will smooth out.

AquaMan~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--- "It all begins and ends at the water's edge"

[mikemcadams]

GOLDEN,

It is not my cache as I have a 1GB area for pages and it is less than 30% full.

I am noticing very long periods of inactivity (no data being received) during the waits, so the delay is not on my machine. If it is not on your end then it is my ISP :-(

SwampFoxOfVA

[Boatnut]

TBO,
specify the browser you are using....netscape, explorer etc. and maybe we can give specific instructions.
Mike(boatnut)

[Golden]

I love these kinds of things, it's always the fault of someone else <grin>

I'm telling you, the server we have set up can handle any and everything that gets thrown at it. I cannot concieve it ever getting overloaded. It's not a "shared server" it's a dedicated server running on it's own redundant T3 connects.

I'm no computer whiz, that is Zach's department. I'm actually a construction worker that bought some books and taught himself enough to get Walleye Central online and that is just about where my knowledge ends. However, I surround myself with smart people, and one of those is the "admin" for the server. Here is what he says:

Hello Scott!
I just checked it...
It is good as always...
Server has no significant load, network responds good.
We did have slowdown on network for few minutes around 7:30 PM EST but that affected everybody and it was resolved fast.



So, again I say..... "It's on your end" not mine.

Scott

[TBO/MN]

Netscape

[Boatnut]

TBO,
click on "edit" at top of your browser
select "preferences"
double click on "advanced"
click once on "cache"
next to "memory cache" and "disc cache" , select "clear"
click "ok" at the bottom


you can also go into your netscape folder on your "c"drive (usually under "program files") and select "users", then whatever name you have in that folder, click on it. then open the "cache" folder and highlight everything and hit delete.

the first method is fastest
email me if further questions
Mike(boatnut)

[BD]

Thanks for all the responces guys! I've done some playing around to check on things. The version of Netscape I'm running should compare the cache with the on line version of the page and display the updated page when you hit refresh. It wasn't/still isn't doing this (guess I'll need to do a reload of the software) it just goes to the cache. You can force Netscape to ignore the cache and go directly to the on line version by holding down the shift key when you hit refresh. Not only does Walleye Central teach us dummies about fishing it's a computer classroom too!

"An angler is a man who spends rainy days sitting around on the muddy banks of
rivers doing nothing because his wife won't let him do it at home." --- Irish saying

[tbomn]

Thanks Mike, I did what Ralph said and it really got the speed up, I also did what you said, and I am sailing now!!!!

Thanks again,



"I respect faith, but doubt is what gives you an education."
Wilson Mizner

Good Fishin'
TBO/MN

[FlyBoy]

(still sucking up to the boss)


Well, for 'just a construction worker who bought some books' you did one #####-of-a-job. (seriously) You get more eyeballs a day than alot of sites that would ever dream of. And I bet your advertising budget is alot smaller than theirs are!

While I'm on it, how many 'hits a day' does WC get? Just curious... I'm sure this time if the year is heaviest, as we are all waiting for the water to soften up. But it has to be pretty high.

Thanks,


John

[Box]

I am using DSL and have not noticed any slow-downs or problems at all. Messages are getting posted in about 3 seconds on my end.

Box
MN

[Zach]

For this month (February 2001) we are averaging 202,000 per day just for this specific domain (www.walleyecentral.com).

Zach

[SeaCat]

The size of your cache space really has very little to do with the speed of you browser -- in real big caches (and I would consider 1 GB real big) can slow the browser down. The cache is disk space and the more you allocate the more files there are for it to search and consequently the longer it can take.

The cache is where files (actually pages and graphics) off the web are copied to be displayed on the bowswer display. To try to speed up the browsing the cache is checked for the page/image before the request is made to the actual web site (first looking in memory cache and then in disk). If a version of the needed resource is found in cache, then only a query is made to the web server to see if a newer page is available. If not, the cache version is used.

A common problem is that congestion at your ISP, the web, or the web server can sometimes result in a less than timely responce at which point the browser will use cache file instead.

Only when a new version of the resouce is actually requested from the web server, is the copy in cache refreshed. Assuming you are going to new never seen pages in your browsing, the cache area on your hard drive will just keep storing pages/images. Old cache files are deleted based on a time out settable in some browsers or when there is no more space in the cache allocation when the files with the oldest dates are deleted to make space. Since deleting files takes disk and processor resouces, this also will slow down your PC and consequently your browsing.

In providing tech support for our 700 node network at work, the most common solution to slow browsing problems is to clear the cache -- mainly the disk cache. The memory cache is cleared whenever you close your browser or restart the PC. It is usually only necessary to clear the memory cache if you have been surfing a lot of different sites during a session, been on for an extended period, or if you have gotten an error on a page.

Ryan

[mikemcadams]

I should not be getting any slow down from searching the directory for files as I am running NT 4.0 w/ SP6a and the files are on a NTFS volume which is defragged every 2 days. I am leaning towards it being my ISP since I see slow downs even at 2-3AM and watching my modem indicators shows no recieved data.

Wish I could get DSL where I live, but Verizon hasn't seen fit to make it availabe here (probably will have it when the cows come home :-)).

56K Regards,
SwampFoxOfVA (AKA Mike)

[Sunshine]

Walleyecentral is averaging 202,000 hits per day? That's disappointing, 201,000 of those hits are from me alone ;-)

[TBO/MN]

and I have the other thousand. What are the rest of you doing???
hahahahahhahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!

Good Fishin'
TBO/MN