Suggestion on RCL / Bashing posts

[FreeByrd]

First - Scott if this one gets nasty, please remove it.

Here is a suggestion to the people that support RCL and tournaments in general. We know that every time there is a major tournament, we'll see the bashing posts either about the rules of the tournament (ie 17 foot boat, having to use a RCL, etc) or that god forbid the DNR decided to harvest the walleye caught and donate them to the Vetrans home and Childrens home. I bet the veterans and children didn't think that was a "waste."

HOW ABOUT WE JUST IGNORE THESE POSTS. It's tough to have an argument with yourself.

The folks that don't support tournaments are certainly entitled to their opinions. It is doubtful that they will change their minds. The fact remains that everyone that is on this board is here because we share the enjoyment of walleye fishing. We may enjoy it in different ways and for different reasons but we all enjoy it. There is nothing wrong with that. I live near Port Clinton. I happen to enjoy trolling. There are a lot of people in the area that don't enjoy trolling and only want to jig or drift/cast. I'm amazed when people want to argue about trolling VS their preferred methods of fishing. I just tell them that as long as they enjoy themselves on the water and I enjoy myself on the water and we are both within the limits of the law, then there is no problem and to have fun. I can also tell you that the people I talked to in the Port Clinton community support the idea of a harvest tournament. They thought it was GREAT that the fish got donated to the Veterans home and other charities. One day at the weighin, there was a little boy that must have been 4 or 5 years old hanging around that wanted a fish to take home for supper. One of the WC regulars- Airwave- talked to the guys with the fish and the little boy got his fish and his family had a nice dinner. The people of Port Clinton would have thought we were NUTS if these fish were released. Again - this is a difference between Lake Erie and some of the small bodies of water. All things are NOT equal. Again - nothing wrong with the fact that they are different situations - they are just different.

The point is the overriding reason we are on this board is because we share the enjoyment of walley fishing. We're not helping ourselves by fighting amongst ourselves. May even be giving the extremist groups that want to ban fishing some ammo - especially if it is copied from here and taken out of context.

After fishing the RCL and seeing how it is run, I'm confident that it will take off. Low turnout was due to timeframe of finalizing the agreements. It really said a LOT when they went with a full payout. And it was VERY FUN for me.

Good Luck Fishing to all.

Steve Carlson
socarlson@att.com

[Buckeye]

Steve I agree with the fact that people are always going to have differences in opinion on trolling vs. drifting, C&R vs. harvest, tourneys vs. no tourneys, 10 fish limits vs. 4 fish limits, etc. etc. etc. We just can't resist stirring up trouble so here we go...............................................



Boxers or briefs?

[paul]

Good Job, I think this is something that needed to be written. If people are just out to bash, they can leave it off-line. I support these tournaments fully. Some rules i may not agree with fully. I know that i didn't start the tournament and that if i don't like them i don't have to fish them. These rules are set up with the intention to benefit the most amount of people and keep people safe. Not for the one guy who falls in the position where he can't fish the tournament. For the guys that say if they were in the tournament they would have won. Well show me! It is totally different from another day out fishing, to a tournament. The pressure and the decisions are endless. I have seen were people can go out one day and outfish a pro. Try doing it for three or four days straight. If you make the wrong decision you won't win.

[Raybob]

Hey .. Great Post!

Now like we say down our way .. "Hey, Whatever makes Your Boat Float" .. Now, Let's Legally get on with the Eye Fishin' & stop the Bashin'. (at least till next winter lol-hehe)

[Hans]

All good and valid thoughts and points.

"Bashing" is, of course, in the eye of the beholder, but it could be easily limited or even eliminated by one small change here at Walleye Central.

Scott, set up a new section here called "Tournaments", separate from the "General Discussion" section.

Hans

[Juls_WI]

Well said Steve.

Hey, I met that little boy too. I was sitting by the fish boxes, when he came up to me with a big grin and said, "I got a fish!" I didn't know what he was talking about, so I asked him, "were you fishing today?", and he said, "nope, they gave me one and I get to take it home. It's a big one too!"
I just giggled and said, "that's pretty cool". After he gave Jack the beast a good ear scratch, he ran off to tell someone else. He was pretty excited..;-)

The bashing on the boards will never stop as long as people are able to hide behind their keyboards. That's just the way it is, unfortunately. I would be curious to see how many bashing posts would be made, if they had to use their real names. Not to many, I'm thinking.

Have a great day!

Juls
NPAA #231

[Nick(Ia)]

Good point Juls. I'm ready for a Tournament board with required registration. How bout it Scott?

[KevinA]

I doubt real names vs handles has anything to do with it. Would people not post 'bashing' statements due to some sort of tourney swat team being able to identify nea-sayers? There are other more compelling reasons not to advertise your identity on the web.

I visit maybe 4-6 boards on a regular basis. This one BY FAR has more arguments than any other...ranger, triton, crestliner, lund..."let's call the whole thing off"..get's really sad after a while/(years). While not all the other boards require registration to post (and yet have no problems year in & year out...go figure), many boards do require a one time registration to post. It's pretty surprising, or not, how things calm down once you have to register. The latest case in point is the old SWS board (used to be a real pit of sniping) ending the service (boat advertisers didn't like some of the comments)...only to be replaced by a volunteer setting up his own registration required board. Most folks that used to be on the SWS board switched to "The Hull Truth" board, registered, and it's a real nice place. What happened to bottom feeders & bashers from SWS...who cares?

The solution is & always has been simple & it works...require registration to post. Traffic will fall off, but the quality of what's left will go up quite a bit. Sacrificing quality for quantity isn't worth the trade...of course this isn't my board...it's only my $0.02

(oh, and adding a tourney board is a good idea)

[800proX]

what a great post. i have found on snowmobile posts that there are two kinds - those registered and those not. also those that are willing to leave names and emails are the most knowledgable and willing to learn, help and contribute. it is rare to see someone come in and completely tear apart someone and leave their name, or even post again.

we will always have controversy within ourselves, but it is those that are willing to listen to the other side and AGREE to DISAGREE that will make us stronger as a WHOLE instead of dividing ourselves. As a group we can accomplish a lot of things, but if there is a division it will only make the cohesive unit weaker and more vulnerable to the future of our sport to some that do not even know what a walleye is.

i for one will not get caught up in the "mines faster, bigger, better" syndrome. and find that most in here are the same. i would also be in favor of a tournament section, but also know that it still will have some confrontation, but maybe at more of a controlled level.

all points are valid, as long as they are posted with the intent to help, not harm. the first person to call names, pick apart someone else, or generally bash any original post is the same person that cries SUE - completely devoid of rashional thinking, ignorant and unwilling to listen. and after such statements have left them completely useless to the rest of us from there on out. all of this is MHO. ;-)

jeff

[Steve 2]

I'm not in favor of bashing or bad mouthing anyone or anything.But by the same token this is a message board,people want honest information on a given subject."Example"Say someone wanted information on a particular boat he was considering purchasing and wanted input from his fellow walleye anglers.He wants to know the good along with the bad.If everyone only replys with oh its the greatest and the guy buys one and it falls apart a week later,that individual is not going to be happy with his information received on walleye central,because someone was afraid to share a negative experience in fear of being called a basher.CONSTRUCTIVE criticism can be a good thing.If theres a problem with something, people want to know about it before they make an investment in something,thats why they ask.This applys not only to products but to tournaments,fishing reports,ect.as well.What I don't want to see is the mines better than yours and you suck type of posts.I think good honest first hand knowledge(not rumors or my buddy says)is valueable to us all.Provided its done in a clean and tastefull manner.If someone is afraid of what they might hear,dont ask!If someone is getting out of hand by all means remove the post.Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion good or bad.Just keep it clean,honest, constructive and meaningfull.If you have something to share that will help your fellow angler good or bad by all means share it with that person.Just because you personaly dont agree with what someone says dos'nt make it right or wrong.We all love this site because because we all have something in common,fishing for the greatest of all fish.I too am a tournament fisherman and would like to see a seperate forum for that topic.As for a bashing post no way that just invites it.Most of us are adults and don't need a place to go swear.This is the best site on the web and provides hours of entertainment,information,comradery and occasionally a little humor.We need to be more openminded and less thin-skinned.I sure hope the ice melts soon!Sorry for rambling on,I dont like when people go on a crusade and I feel I just did.I hope this is'nt considered bashing,I'm just expressing my opinion.:-)God bless America!

[tourney guy]

PLEASE DON'T BASH THE RCL.REMEMBER THERE NOT TRUE PROFESSIONALS.THE ONLY TRUE PROFESSIONALS ARE THE P.W.T. GUYS!!!

[800proX]

this is what we are talking about.

jeff

[FISH 24 7]

If you're going to take the time to bash people, at least make sure your grammar and spelling is correct. Get a life and stand up for your statements by recognizing yourself too!

Mark Gilbertson
NPAA #556

[Rip Lips]

Great Post Steve Carlson,Agree 100%.