Forget About Bashing. What about Fuel $$$$

[The Great Guide]

Gas prices just went to $1.79 in Duluth, MN $1.89 across the bridge in Superior, WI. I've got the gas guzzlers Chevy Z-71 and a 150 VMAX O-66 pushing a big Lund. If the prices go to $2.50 to $3.00 like predicted, it will be $162.00 to $195 to fill them both up. The price of fun doubles. Any comments? ..................OUCH!!! TGG

[jimbo2]

I also live in Duluth, on my way in to work this morning gas was $1.63, so you're saying it went up $0.16, again?!?!?
This is f*&^^g robbery!!!!
With the collusion that already goes on in this town with gas prices, things could get ugly!!!!
I'd better start lookingfor a smaller boat I guess....boo hoo...

[Hawgeye]

I know that I am planning on keeping my boat near the lake that I fish so I only have to pull it a few miles with my "gas friendly" van instead of my Tahoe that makes that "sucking" sound as I drive down the road. My 125hp Merc likes gas too so I guess the batteries will get a good workout this summer too. Oh well, guess I will have to pass on that new toy for my boat...at least for this year...

[Sunshine]

$1.85 outside of Milwaukee in the suburbs.

I received an email last week that said that none of us should be buying gas from the two largest gas suppliers (Exxon and ?). The theory states that if we stop buying from them then they will have to lower their prices to get us back. Other companies are supposed to follow their lead on prices, so if they lower their prices others are supposed to also.

[Hawgeye]

So what gas stations carry brands other than the big two? If I know that, I will not buy from Exxon and ? whatever that is.

[Kevin B]

You oughta come to one of the high taxation states like here in CO. Gas has been $1.78 (87 octane)for almost a month. I paid $1.89 in IL and OH last summer. I think it'll cross the $2 mark this summer. Maybe $2.40 at the marinas.
There isn't a darn thing we can do about it. (Maybe move to WY where gas is always 25 cents less than CO). What doesn't cost more today than yesterday? How about the prices of crankbaits today vs. two years ago? How about a trip to the ballpark for those infield box seats today vs. three years ago? Cable TV? Insurance rates on your 4x4? I just work some overtime and say #@*# with it. I'm tired of being mad about gas prices. I don't even have a favorite gas station anymore. When the gauge is low I just turn into the next station I see.
I met and talked with Bill Richardson on several occasions in the 1980s. My impression of him leads me to think that he doesn't like the gas prices either. Apparantly, he doesn't know what to do about it anymore than we do!

[Andy]

I live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa on the way to work this morning gas was $1.59 a gallon I looked out the window at 9:30 and it was $1.74 a gallon. There was no tanker truck around, how come the gas that they already have in there tanks cost more? I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation I just would like to know what it is. Hang on the I'm sure it will be worse before it gets better. The cost of all energy is going to scare everyone this year.

[Sunshine]

Big news item this morning in the Milwaukee area was that a refinery in Illinois had a fire yesterday and that this will drive up prices even further than where they were going to be for the Midwest. I think some stations react to news stories like that before it really causes their prices to rise. IMHO

[Olfs]

When are we going to tap into the Alaskan black gold? I am sure that with all the revenue that oil creates there is some way it can be done so it pleases at least most of the eco-people.

[Phil T.]

I won't be fishing three of my four days off each week, but will be spending more time with my economical lawnmower. To quote Charlie Brown, "AARRGGH!"

[Chad]

Just so you know.....
My partner owns a gas station/repair shop. His margin stays the same-9 cents/gallon. The increases are comming for the refinaries/big oil companies not the little guy running the station. Actually when prices go up he looses more money because more people charge the gas. When they charge it he has to pay VISA 2%. Someone is getting fat but its not the local guys.

[George Eh]

Just filled up truck and all my gas cans for the boat this morning as prices in N. Ontario were .734 a litre or $2.78 a US gallon. Everybody was filling up as the prices at some stations had jumped to over .81 a litre or over $3.00 a US gallon. Seems like gouging to me when the prices fluctuate wildly and as stated there were no tankers filling the tanks. I upgraded 3 years ago to a 150 Ford from a Mazda 4 banger but maybe its time to go back to the smaller truck. Disgusted from Rainbow Country where the only free gas is from Inco's smelter!!

[Aaron]

Well, what do you expect when you go eight years with no
energy policy and let the Green Weenies run the show?

[rawburt]

In Québec City and region it's 86.9/litre, can $. Will we see you this summer???

[Gas Money]

I went to the bank today to get a loan to buy gas this summer for my truck and boat. It will cost me a hundred bucks a shot. I figure as much as I fish. It will cost me around three thousands bucks for the summer, just for gas. My banker thought I was joking. I told him I did not see the humor in this. It is a bad deal when gas prices are going to start regulating what you can and cannot due in the summer.

Frustrated in SoDak

[Eyelander]

I'm in PA and I thought $1.60 was high!! Something has to be done.
Who is running this country? Politicians? It's definitely not "We the people".
It's the oil companies that run the politicians that run the country, as long as people sit on their hands these prices will keep going up.
They can build electric cars, as a matter a fact there are some out there, but you won't see mass production of these efficient
Rides because the oil companies will not let that happen.

Think about how your alternator works. You can't tell me that with modern technology They can't manufacture a car that has a large battery or group of batteries that once they are charged and the vehicle is in motion the energy created can charge another set of batteries and alternate back and forth as needed to power the motor.
Maybe I'm crazy but I don't see how we can build a space station that is powered by the sun yet we can't even drive a block away without destroying our environment, not to mention our bank accounts.
The almighty dollar!!!!! Greed!!!

The only thing that will make a difference is to revolt!!
As my grandfather would say back in his day people wouldn't put up with half of this crap. They would get out there guns and go out into the streets and protest, and I don't mean a couple of them, I mean entire towns would participate until the voice of the people was to loud to be ignored.
Sounds primitive but why should they drop prices if people are willing to pay them. That's like my boss coming up to me and saying how much do you want per hour and whatever number you pick we'll be more than happy to pay it! lol Good business!!
It's not their fault it's ours for letting them get away with this. You can write all the letters you want but until something drastic takes place this country will continue to go downhill!

[Sprinter]

Hello All
You might find this site useful.
http://www.gaspricewatch.com

Take care,
Sprinter

[Denied]

At Port Clinton, Ohio the price of street gas is $1.609 on the lake its $1.969.

Many thanks to slick Willie and his energy secretary. One of the last things Mr Clinton said was that the American people would pay $2.00 per gallon without griping too much. Looks like the energy folks were listening.

Fishing Western Lake Erie aboard "DENIED"
web page; http://www.cliftond.com

[curt quesnell]

your granddad remembers funny.....the government told your
granddad he couldnt buy shoes, eat meat on certain days of the
week, told him how much gas he could buy and when he could buy
it, told him if his car broke down he was screwed because he
couldnt have the parts to fix it. sugar, flour, coffee were
rationed to your grandfather.

the patriotic americans understood it was because of the war,
the gripers gripped but the facts stayed the same. so just
remember, our grandads may not have liked it but they put up
with alot more than gas prices being high.

our grandads raised huge families on no money, worked hard
all their lives, lived thru wars and depression, suffered
hardships we could never understand, even if it was only a
generation or two ago. but i think it affected their memories
a little.

i am leaving my truck and boat at the lake this summer and
driving my nissan sentra for work. 40 mph sounds better than
17 at 2 bucks a gallon.

sadly, what can we do, other than get out of the consumer
business. our gas is still cheaper than most of the world.


curt quesnell

[Frank from TBay]

Good post Curt. We can all learn from the past and the experiences of our past generations. We just have to give those good people the thing that is in the shortest supply for a lot of them........A little bit of our time to listen to them and hear them out.

[Joel B.]

Yes, gas prices are high but "they" have kind of got us by the b---s. We all need gas and personally it doesn't matter how much gas costs (to a point) I need it so I'm going to buy it. You've got to pay to play.

Have a great summer all,

Joel B.

[Nofish]

LAST EDITED ON May-01-01 AT 07:19PM (CST)[p]Hey gang,

I see on the news, here in the Milwaukee area tonight, that some political types are primping and posturing on the news saying they are gonna "Get to the bottom of this." More air time for the elected, to sound concerned and look good.

Bottom line for me, I took some advice from this very message board. I e mailed all the elected officials that have my district and, very politely, told them that until such time that I don't feel like my wallet is being attacked at the pump, and we start to begin to explore our countries own oil resources, I will not vote for them in the next election.

I feel that should help get the message across that enough is enough. Imagine if these people, we elect, start seeing e mails en masse. E mail asking them to stop the price gouging, open up our own resources and kick the exploration for alternative fuel and developement of new technology in the butt.

If their e mail swells to 5 to 10 times the normal flow, with all saying they have lost a vote, imagine the power that would have. Elected officials live and die by the vote.

I do not, however, think the fuel price gouging is the most important issue that the senators and congressional types have to deal with. I e mail them several times every year with my views on issues.

I too recieved the e mail asking not to buy from Exxon and Mobil (I think it was Mobil). I sent a reply that asked what good would that do me, I don't buy from them already. Not by any design, but the closest fuel up is a Speedway station.

I have babbled on enough now.

Have fun.........R

[Confucious]

TGG..got to have the priorities seriously in order, now, huh?
Don't ever stop to figure out what a walleye cost to make dinner.
You got me scared enough with just what it costs to go fishing let alone even catching any !
Like Sven said to Ole, if they cost that much, its a good thing we don't catch many !

[jimbo2]

Hey Great one,
I was able to find 2 stations still selling at $1.63 this morning. Go to the Spur at kenwood and arrowhead, or homecroft supervalu (old arkularys). When I came by this morning they were still at $1.63!!! We need to patronize the station owners that try to find ways to keep costs down.
When I was down in St. Paul to visit my dad in the hospital I went by an independent station that was selling premium at $1.38 and right across the street SA was $1.70. How dumb is that?
Needless to say, SA was not very busy!!
Lets stick together on this one!!!

[Al]

Sunshine, that sounds good, but how do you know what other stations Exxon is supplying? I live not far from fuel terminals for Marathon -Ashland, Shell, BP. There are three refineries close by....Sun , BP, Premcor. Shell has a terminal at the Premcor refinery as does Marathon Ashland. So, shell has not their own refined fuel. You can't get away from these guys. The best thing that can happen is for Exxon to build some refineries....the others too. That would make the impact of fires , shutdowns etc less costly to us.

[Don]

We the people have the power to regulate gas prices if we would learn to work together.What I mean by that is, for thoose of us that can do it ,quit buying gas,ride bikes like the chineese,walk,roller skate to work.I know some of us don't have that choice,but do whatever you can to contribute.Believe me,if everybody and I mean everybody did this, it would start making a difference.The fuel companies would start crying about not making enough money,and fuel prices would come down, to get more people to buy there fuel, again.If prices start climbing again, quit buying again.This would not only work to get gas prices down, but other products as well.Please forgive my spelling!!!!!

[ET]

Hey Harv, we have a surplus of oil right here in the USA waiting to be refined into gasoline. Problem is not enough refineries online to handle it right now.

[saskfish]

You Americans are finally starting to feel what us Canadians have felt for a long time. Prices here in Saskatchewan average 75 cents/litre which equals about $3.40/gallon. I used to like travelling to the states and filling up for $15 but was in Minot last weekend and a fill was $26. With our lousy exchange rate that is about $40 Canadian, the same as I pay here.
At least the beer is still cheap south of the border!

[Ya But]

Thwe tree hugging eco nazis would be messin in their pants. Making all of us bike and walk is what they are after. Like the VP said yesterday, the problem isnt conservation, we need to increase the supply!

[harv]

communist *******s just keep rising the gas prices than drop it a quarter and everyone thinks its cheap then jack it up 50 cents and drop it a quarter again and every one thinks its cheap soon people will think 3$ a gallon is cheap or at least a decent price

[Jeff]

Here is our gas issue in a nut shell..............

Its all based on the futures market and that market reacts to the hype that is created by the media.....government and the effected suppliers....... There is no fuel shortage the is no refining shortage there is just a need for the oil companies to make more money and the do that by the hype.....

Todays futures traded up 4 at 107+ add 10 cents for freight and 40 to 50 cents for taxes that gives you 167 on the high side to your service station....... So what ever extra the pump price is the margin your service station is taking..... Today in ND that margin is .12, is that fair...... you judge......

I have had conversations with a couple of different refineries and a couple of different fuel suppliers and they have full tanks of unleaded gas and have had for quite sometime..... They wonder why the fuel prices are going up as well.....

oops that was a big shell........ by the way the barrel price of oil was up .50 per barrel but is basically at the same price that it was when we where all paying 1.39 or less per gallon....

[Rich]

Hey,gas here in Chicago area is a real killer.$1.99 for
unleaded,mid grade $2.09,super unleaded$2.19 per gallon. and going up.Heard it will be $4.00 per gallon by july 4th,$5.00
by Christmas.Going to canada in july,so how much will it be?
God only knows,Hope every one has a great walleye season
Rich

[Enough is enough!!!]

Anarchy is the word that comes to mind. However, we have to make the public views known. Start calling your elected officials. Call the local TV and newspaper and start squaking. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Also after the Mobil debacle in Milwaukee and Chicago today with the bad gas, I second the boycott of all Mobil Exxon brands. The Speedway Super America stores and 7 Eleven's around here also buy this Mobil wonder water. Boycott them all. Shell oil for me, and any independent I can find that is still left, as long as he does not use mobil/exxon fuels.

[gas man]

get a harley

[Wile E.]

I was smart for once in my life. I got gas for the boat (only 24 gal.)when there was a gas war here in Austin Mn. in the middle of March but now I got to fill the gas hog whitch don't pass many stations. Anyway I got the first day for cheap

[Wile E.]

I have a friend that works the feilds up there and he tells me that all the oil from Alaska ends up in Japan. GO FIGURE

[Boat towing]

So tell me, just how do you pull a boat with a Hog? Or any model harley of your choice?

[slick2526]

Im sure glad I only have a 12ft fiberglass and a 6hp Johnson now! :)BUT still the gas prices really do suck.

[THUMPER]

I had a rig like that before I bought the boat that takes a good part of my paycheck every week. I think I had as much enjoyment out of that simple rig than I do out of my "dream Machine". I caught as many or more fish without any of the worries of a large rig.