Mr Pike 17

[BillyBigFish]

I have a trailer loading problem. I am having trouble keeping my boat centered on the trailer. I have called Shorelander, I tried changing roller placement.

Is anyone else having this type of problem? If so do you have any solutions.

Also I am told I am underpowered. I purchased my boat in 1999 with a 90hp 2-stroke. Is this under powered. At the time I purchased it the max rating was 115hp, in the book. When I finally got the boat the rating was 135hp, don't ask me why. There must have been a misprint.

How can I get a few more MPH's out of her. I max out at 38MPH's would like a few more.

[moreyes]

I do believe it is common problem I have the same rig with a Sparten(junk) trailer, look at the way your boat sits in the water the console side is lower by a inch or two it loads the same way, the only way I can get mine to load straight is to stand on the pasenger side levels the boat, and have someone crank it,I think these boats are so wide it has more wieght hanging out there, should have gone bunk o'well to late now maybe next time. Earlier Pikes where rated for 115 max 90 is enough if you are not a speed demon.

Good luck, moreyes

[REW]

With the size and weight of the mr. pike - 38 is quite typical of speed for this boat with the 90 hp motor.

If you want more speed, the solution is a smaller boat or bigger motor.

If you do a bunch of tweaking, and do a bunch of prop experimenting, and moter height changes, you might be able to get the speed up to 40 or 41.

If you don't already have one - try a high rake 19 pitch stainless, and try raising the motor, one hole at a time until you get excessive caviatation.

If you can get the rpms up, you might even try a 20 or 21 pitch. I have heard of some folks using a 20 pitch raker with a 90 hp engine on this boat and getting to 42.

Basically, you are on the down side of power for this rig, and although it is a great boat, and lots of room, it does take a bit more power to get this boat over 40 with consistency and with a load in the boat.

Take care

REW

[Robb]

Hi I also have a 2000 Mr pike. with a 90 hp merc. 21 pitch prop
mine runs 40 mph with 2 people and gear any more people and it drop to 38 by GPS I also have a shore landar roller and nothing but problems that youve discribed.the right side seems to ride up on the fender and so on this week im gonna do so addjustments
let ya know if it does any good. ya i wish mine had a 135 opti
one thing for sure my next boat will be maxed out


walleyeia

[rwl]

I have a 2000 with 115 merc. 45-47 with gps and wheel (both read same) with full fuel me and 3 year old. 21 pitch, 3rd hole. Shorelander e-mailed me a fix of replacing front keel rollers with two four gang rollers. One on each side of the front cross member. The dealer ordered them and they are in but I have been having good luck by keeping trailer shallow, about 4" of water over rear rollers. I hate to say I have it down because I have been SO FRUSTRATED getting it on the trailer straight. I may have been just getting lucky lately. Anyway I need to ask how much these rollers are. If anyone has done this change let me know if it helped and I will do the same when I get it done. I can also post the part numbers if you are interested, I have them at work.

Thanks, may your boat load straight

Rob

[BillyBigFish]

I would like to hear from you on that fix. I have been using side guides (Low profile style) this year for the first time. They worked well until last weekend when my partner put the trailer in cockeyed. I ended up off again and on top of one of the guides. This ended up bending it so now I am in the middle of fixing this. I love my boat but this trailering problem sucks. I guess it might be time to look into a trade in on a bunk style. Please send me those part numbers if you can. My e-mail is bwhite@maycoating .com.

Thanks to everyone for there info. It's nice to know I am not the only one having a problem.

[BillyBigFish]

Thanks for the info!

[BillyBigFish]

Thanks I will give it a try. Next time I am maxing it out with a 4 stroker. I should quit being cheap.

Good Luck and may the Big eyes bit!

[REW]

If I were you, I would take off the side guides.
Then, I would put the trailer in much more shallow than you are putting in the trailer.

I am guessing that you might have the trailer in so deep that the boat won't center on the trailer, because, the boat isn't even touching the trailer.

Give it a try - one time, where you have the very back roller - 1 inch the water level, and all of the other rollers out of the water.

See if this doen't center your boat with no problem.

My guess, is that if you have the trailer out of the water more -you will simply be able to drive the boat right on the trailer with no problem.

Your exprience with the side guides is fairly common - if the gujides are short, and the cross winds and waves are high.

That is why I am suggesting in leaving the trailer further out of the water, and then simply driving the boat on the trailer.

Take care

REW

[tom]

give this a shot,,,go slowly ,,untill you feel the rollers trying to center you,, then turn off powre and let the boat roll backward,,now move slowly till boat stops,,make sure moter is where it has to bee,, then give some gas,,all the way up ,or close to the stop,, hope this works!

[BillyBigFish]

Thanks for the suggestion but, I am only putting in the trailer so the first set of rollers are maybe 1" or less under the water. I have tried putting it in deeper, shallower and I have tried standing and trying to balance the boat before the trialer. I have had only marginal success. I have also sent an e-mail to Shorelanr' and they suggested going back to the dealer and having them offset the rollers. I tried this my self with no luck. I guess I will have to live with it or trade to a bunk. Thanks for all the suggestions I will give them all a try again and see if I figure it out.

[AWH]

I was wondering if one of you Mr. Pike owners could do me a big favor. Could you take a tape measure to your livewell and measure the length of it? I'm considering a Mr. Pike for my next boat purchase and livewell length is a consideration to me. Thanks for your help!

[rwl]

I will pick up the rollers this weekend. I believe the part numbers are 0002949. This is off their document 0002954 REV 12/12/00. Also on top of the page it shows models SLXR24BSW & SLXR31BSW. And you need two, one for each side. The front center rollers come off. Shorelander said it was due to extreme width and relatively flat hull where the rollers touch in the back of the hull. This cause it to not center and the center rollers in front don't help. I fished this weekend with a buddy who has a bunk and I was glad to see I am not alone, he had to back in three times to get it on straight, (not a MR Pike).

Hope this helps, I will post results when I put them on

Rob

[walleye crazy]

I have a Mr Pike 16 with a bunk shorelander and have trouble getting it on straight so I dont think that a bunk will help. I bought it knew in may and have already rubed the rug off the end of the bunks. Does anyone know why this would be happening. The end that is rubbed off is always under water and the boat doesnt ride one the part that is rubbed off.

[Bill]

I have a friend who has a 1800 Pro V and has an Eagle bunk trailer. The Eagle trailers are made specificly for your boats hull. He says it goes on like a dream everytime. Terry Tuma tells me the same thing. Bill

[JIM]

I'm not sure where you live, but my 2000 mr pike is up for sale.
It has a 125hp mercury on it e-mail me if your interested.

[seaotter]

My son has a Mr. Pike 17 with a mariner 115. I had it out last night to test a new prop and had no trouble loading it straight. The trailer is a Trailmaster 4 bunk trailer. I think a bunk trailer does seem to load better once you learn the tricks.

[BillyBigFish]

Thanks for the part numbers. I am going to wait and see what you experience. I am going this weekend to Mille Lacs and will try some of the other suggestions. I think I am going to look into a trade for an Eagle trailer. I have done some looking into this and it seams Eagle has the right trailer for my boat. I do not know the cost but, I hope it is worth it.

For the guy with the question on Live Wells. They are prolong style. I do not know the exact length but, they are the same size wells as in the Pro V's. The front well has a large door which makes getting the fish out great. The rear one has a smaller door but the same size well.

[Mr. Pike 17]

I have a 2000 Mr. Pike 17 with a Merc 115 Optimax. With a 21"P Mirage Plus, I can reach 52MPH with a loaded boat and just me. I raised the outboard up to the third hole (because the boat dealers still don't know proper engine setup!) and tried a bunch of props. You need to find a dealer that's willing to work with you. The fairest thing you can do is buy the prop from him when you find the right one.

As for the trailer... what model Shore Land'r does everyone have? I have an 1828 and it has the shorter bunk guides in the rear and also has the riser kit for the rollers installed. I back up so that the rear-most rollers are just an inch or two above water. I then slowly motor slightly right of center of the trailer and it takes me home. This was a huge problem before I got the bunk guides and the lift. The boat would always bounce between the fenders.

Good luck everybody!