Gill nets Lake St. Clair.

[Hunter]

Saw several natives putting out gill nets this evening, just outside of Belle River marina. They are about 300 yards west of the marina and they are not marked. Directly infront of theyre tents. Time for the slaughter again! Every year they go in and pull out hundreds of dinks, just because they go shallow. And I wonder how much of this is sold.

[curt quesnell]

i hate the gill nets.....

i learned something here on walleye central that made the
whole deal a little easier for me.

if there is a set quota that everyone agrees on, and it is
followed there is little chance of real damage done to the
resource.

it is just a bad way to take gamefish...period

curt quesnell

(good luck hunter)

[Hunter]

These guys have no quata, they can take whatever they want as long as it is to sustain theyre families. Unfortunately I know it is being sold, because I have seen the signs " FRESH PICKERAL HERE" infront of several houses on Walpole Island. But the mnr will do nothing, they just want to right tickets.

[Chathamite]

I buy my walleye there all the time. Good people and very honest. Most of the reserve is on welfare.....these people are trying to get something going to make a few dollars and get a little self respect in the only opportunity there is for them. Good for them.

[Al]

These people take bass out of season every year in the name of subsistance. And we are to believe they are working hard to get off welfare? Kind of like the way they made money with spring duck hunts last year right? Give me a break. These are the same folks who cart tons of corn to the island every year to bait ducks. Not to feed a refuge but shoot over bait. Try that outside the stake line and see what CO Sullivan says. I have no problem with them getting off welfare. I'd love it, but do they need to rape the resource while doing it?? Giving them an out for poaching isn't giving them much credit for being able to do anything else does it.

[Hunter]

Who are you trying to kid? If they gave back dollar for dollar to welfare, every dollar they make netting fish and shooting baited ducks and geese there would be no welfare. It is meant to feed theyre families, not every family that drives onto the island and pays $5 a pound. And you buying these inmature fish doesnt help much!

[curt quesnell]

it is truly sad...it gets nobody off welfare, its not a store
or even a business. its selling game fish out of the trunk
of a car and it would be nice if it could be stopped.



curt quesnell

[Chathamite]

Whats the difference.Walleye from the reserve or Walleye from the fish market. At least these poor natives can make a little off a resource that mostly goes to rich Americans and Canadian sport fishers. The conditions on the reserve are almost third world in nature. Give these poor natives a break.

[Al]

The difference is....as much as we despise the commercial folks, at least what they do, they still have to buy permits etc and adhere to regs. What I've seen these indians do is far from that.

They are not trying to get off welfare. It is their security. They are just looking for a little more hooch money. Anyone that has been around that place knows that.

Some poor sap from Windsor couldn't pull off the shananigans these people do. Even if in the name of "subsistance". What a joke.

[Hunter]

Whats the difference? I dont know probably $3 a pound. I think you have been exposed to too much fumes from the ethanol plant.

[Chathamite]

Maybe but the exposure has given me a little compassion for my fellow man. You guys could do with a little exposure as well if that would give you a little compassion. As for baiting ducks and geese......they can shoot all they want for all I care. You can only eat so many of the things anyways and they provide a service to the "hunters" who go down there.

[Al]

And that is exactly why they haven't progressed. People like you have made excuses for them, let them do their own thing, and turn a blind eye to it. Things will never change over there and people like you will make certain of it.

[Hunter]

AMEN!

[FireTiger]

AHHHHHHH SHUT UP AND FISH ,,,Life is way to short to worry about Native Netting,The largest netting Operation in Lake Erie isn't natives, Just cut off the welfare, let them trash the fish and waterfowl population and then crack a deal and buy there RIGHTS away, are you telling me that with all the money some of the tribes make with the gambling franchaise's they can't provide their own welfare,You want your heart broken take a trip up to St Mary's and watch the native kids snagging Alantic Salmon w/silver spiders,(M60'S) , I somehow wish we all lived by the same rules,but I believe those who rule all of us profit from the division and propaganda spewed out on a daily basis, sure I wish I fished and hunted everyday, (but wait I preety much do)netting fish and spring Waterfowl hunts,camping out, sounds good, The real issues are toxic waste and PCB's and Mercury and the ***** selling the great lakes WATER, stay on course and Stop falling for Diversions
NOW SHUT UP AND FISH

[Chartertalk]

I fish Belle River on Wed 23 and saw nothing.

[Chathamite]

Al....I read something almost the same as your comments in a book written by a little guy with a funny moustache. He spoke German.

[FireTiger]

If it ain't broke don't fix it,

[Al]

That's pretty cheap, but not surprising. The first thing the welfare apologists do, when they run out of propaganda, is shout down those who challenge the mess their "ideals" have made. Those folks will never get out of that mess so long as they are allowed to live by a seperate set of rules.....because of some injustice that took place several generations ago.

[Mt-1]

Al- I hate to burst your bubble, but Natives are not the only one's on welfare. Get off your high horse and take a good look around. I would think you would have more to worry about then a few Natives netting some fish, like gas prices, homeless, world hunger, etc.. but i guess people like you complain about everything.

GERALD

[Cangl]

Al this won't make you feel any better, but the going rate in Detroit for a 3-4lb walleye head and all is 5$ these fish are usually confiscated from gillnetters MOST often Indian. And bought by truckloads 1/2,1 ton and so forth at the site of violation! Lucrative return and tax free sale here.Those baited ducks? rafts 4X8 with open bags of grains literally covering them, a past boss of mine brought a one ton Ford van thru customs with 252 duck that he had shot in a 1 1/2 day hunt himself, still goes every year and that was 25 years ago some sportsman. Do not buy the fish, or pay to hunt makes sense to me