out of state purchase of outboard

[mmillelacs]

I' just wondering if anybody has ever bought an outboard from another state and had it shipped and if they had a good experience doing so. If I were to buy a new 50 yamaha here in minnesota, at $4299 i would have to pay $265 in sales tax. Of course shipping might be high too. I don't know. Any feedback on this?

[dan]

Just a thought,couldn't you get a better deal buying a motor in Canada being that you are not far from there and difference in money. Just my 2 cents worth. goodluck

[Booger]

I bought a Yamaha in Canada 2 years ago, its the only way to go, I saved alot. A friend of mine just bought a F80 Yamaha and saved about 2 thousand.
Good Luck

[Buckg]

Back in the 1980's I lived in Colorado and the boat and motor prices there were way high compared to the upper midwest where I lived previously. I ordered a Mercury classic 50 4-cylinder from some outfit in CA that I saw advertized in back of a boating magazine. The freight was way less than the sales tax would have been and I saved over $1000 (compared to local purchase) I mounted it (first time I ever did so) and had no major difficulties that I can recall. A friend of mine just bought a motor in Canada at considerable savings. The dealer delivered it to the border so he wouldn't even have to fool with paying G & S tax. Good Luck

[T-Mac]

We have no sales tax in Montana. A lot of Washington and Wyoming folks buy motors from us, for that reason.
That price you quoted has got to be 2 stroke...right?
If not, jump on it!!!!

[Yankee]

If it is a Yamaha from Canada, it has a Canadian warranty and will not show up on the the US Yamaha computer system, and to get any warranty work authorized, a US dealer needs to be able to get authorized.
Like it or not, in the real world, this is a FACT!
This price differential is because of the US import tarrifs on Japanese goods, (in order to save all the USA, Union made, competing product employee's jobs).
So, think about it, huh?

[bob oh]

You also have great hunting and bars ;-)
Bob

[hawgman]

A word of warning: If you decide to have an outboard motor shipped, make sure it's insured. UPS apparently dropped an 8 hp Honda that was shipped to me in February and broke the fiberglass hood. The seller had purchased insurance, but it is taking forever to get a settlement.

[bobco]

I bought a 150 EFI merc from Buddys Marineland in Bessimer Alabama in 1996, cost $125 to have it shipped to Western Colorado. Saved over $3000 on best deal I could find, a friend bought a 5hp 4 stroike last year from them for $1050 vs $1700 here in Colorado. In 96 Merc discounted prices to dealers on volume of sales, so the big dealers like
"Buddys" could sell for less than most dealers could buy for. Watch the Canadian warrenty issue. I looked into this 2 years ago when shopping for a 8hp Honda, Honda America does not warrenty engines bought in Canada, so is the price worth it?

[Don in Denver]

I have now purchased 2 boats and 3 outboard motors from my local dealer over the past 19 years. Having purchased from him, he has bent over backward for me a couple of times to get repairs made so I could get on my way, where I'm sure that had he only been doing warranty repairs on something I'd bought out of state, I'd have gone to the back of the line and had to wait my turn. He even had one of his mechanics come to my home at 10:00 one night to help me raise a 200 hp engine that had a locked up trim and they then changed out the trim/tilt motor the next morning at 7:00 AM to get me on my way to Lake Powell. Just one more thing to crank into the equation. Good lucki whichever way you go.

[T-Mac]

And a lots of cute sheep! ;-)

[cowboy]

And I keep them nervous!!!

[BestGuess]

I may be mistaken but here is my understanding of out of state purchases. I believe the Nexus ruling states that if you purchase anything from out of state the seller does not have to charge you sales tax. The burden lies on the buyer. If you feel you dont want to pay it then you dont have to. I of course can not condone any action which starves our government of its fair share of my money. I have not done this many times in the past (wink).

You may want to search the web for

"Internet Tax Freedom Act (ITFA)"

[Taxman]

Then think of it this way: We are going to collect sales tax from the seller. In order for the seller to pay these funds, he can call it what ever he wants, but he will have to charge you more money in order to cover it. We ARE going to collect it from him.

[Dan]

Big savings buying in Canada. At this Yamaha dealer www.jpmarine.reach.net the prices are posted along with a link to a currency converter. I haven't had any problems.

[chrism]

Good point, however, if I'm not mistaken, I think most japanese motors are made in the USA. At least mine is, and the japanese truck I drive is.
With the exchange, you can save a bundle - but I think the warranty issue is something to consider. Those who have needed warranty can vouch for that.
If the warranty thing is worked out, that is, the warranty will be honored wherever, then It is definately worth your while as a consumer to shop abroad in the USA or Canada - there are less tariffs in Canada.
As examples for some 4strkes -
In Cdn funds...RETAIL
50 Honda /Merc $6100
90 Honda $8800
100 Yammi $9000ish
70 Suzuki $7200ish

divide by 1.5 and you have the approx price in USD

My own personal feelings, if it is only a couple of Hundred$$$, is to support the local boys that you will need someday to service your boat - It only makes sense that you will be treated well if you support them. Besides, if you have to travel and/or ship and /or insure, Is it really a cost saving?

That being said, as a consumer, If I saw a good deal in my travels, I would consider buying it, as would most of us (If I had the $$$$).

[Global View]

I keep hearing about this warranty issue thing and wonder where it started. I just purchased a boat and 2 motors in Canada and find that there is NO warranty issue with Yamaha! My service folks stated that this is not an issue and they are Yamaha service reps. They tell me the regional sales reps are pushing this line all of the time. I worked my warranty issues out prior to the sale. My service techs do not sell product, they service it only. If you are interested in saving money and buying in Canada then talk to a service shop that does not sell motors to make a living. I think they will gladly do your warranty work in the unlikely event that it is needed.

Not trying to start a war, it is just that I have had a very different experience than what you are talking about.

It is unfortunate that these punitive tariffs did not protect Evinrude from the reality of the market. Tariffs do not always work well. They punish consumers who want to own a quality product. My politicians gave me the right through NAFTA to purchase a quality Japanese product in Canada and I saved a pile. Perhaps you should lobby your politicians to do away with these tariffs so that American dealers can compete with the Canadians. Competition is a good thing, right? It is also unfortunate that American or Union made products are not always associated with quality anymore.

My experience applies to Yamaha only-NOT HONDA.

Take care,
mlc

[vetspet(ind)]

i bought a new 9.9 evinrude last yr from a local dealer in valpo who does not service the new motors...i got a terrible runaround when i wanted something checked out from a local service...TNT marine in hobart...they jumped all over me and literally said i should have bought the new motor from them .....so i guess its not like a car...if i buy it from one dealer my regular dealer seems happy to do warranty work...steve

[Yankee]

Yamahas are built in Japan.

[Yankee]

OK ,mlc...take your serial number on your Canadian motor and call any Yamaha dealer in the USA. Tell them to look up your serial number on YCS. (this where he goes to get authorization for warranty work)
See what happens!
Then after this dealer makes 14 phone calls to find out just what is the deal with your serial number, and why it doesn't show up, ask him when you could get warranty work done.
Then be sure to explain to the dealer that the only reason you bought it in Canada was to save money, but you did not want to drive back there for service work.
Now take your sandwich and your beverage and go into the nearest cafe and ask them for some silverware and a dish and a seat so that you could eat your food.
Or, take a six-pack of beer and walk into the closest bar, sit down, and ask them for a glass and maybe some space in the cooler, to keep your beers cold until you drink them.

Same thing!...;-)

[Global View]

Not so! It is more like asking Fred, my Yamaha tech, to check out a certain problem on my Yammy. He already knows that it was purchased in Canada. He says, "No problem! We KNOW how to deal with that." He does not sell them anyway. He, and others in his shop, make a living by servicing and repairing them. He replaces the hydraulic check valve in my trim and tilt system and away I go.

You missed the point in my earlier post. I take my motors to a SERVICE SHOP. They do not sell many motors. They service and repair them. The regional sales reps do not control them. I owe Fred my loyalty for doing excellant work when maintaining or repairing my motors. I would not take my motors anywhere else.



Take care,
mlc