View Full Version : AAARGH! All welded Lund!
Bobby
09-07-2002, 04:51 PM
A bass boat ?!!
Lund has introduced a series of bass boats, and one is a welded modified V hull, the '170W Bass', rated for 115 HP.
Oh well, as long as they leave the rest of their boats as we like 'em, I suppose its not so bad if Lund grabs a bit of business away from the other guys...
luredaddy
09-07-2002, 05:19 PM
I just saw that, must be an experiment!!!!!!!!!!
boatman
09-07-2002, 09:32 PM
If the Pro-Vs go welded I won,t even consider buying one,I hope they continue to build with Rivits.
Hooky
09-08-2002, 09:01 AM
Very intersting!!! Lund says in their brochure that the rivets are the strongest way to build a boat. Now, if that is true, why would Lund build an all welded hull? Cost? Maybe their boats will come down in price. Just curious!
perchjerker
09-08-2002, 01:47 PM
I see very few people are touching this post after a day. I figured the welded vs rivet camp would be all over this. 392 views and 4 replys as of this post.
Interesting. A few thoughts come to mind.
If you cant beat 'em join 'em.
Maybe now we will see welded jumbo jets?
Looks like Lund is telling us that welded boats are'nt so bad after all.
Todd_NE
09-08-2002, 02:20 PM
Why the surprise?
Genmar owns Lund, Ranger, Crestliner, Javelin, Champion, Larson, etc.
Lund used to have a fiberglass Nisswa made by Larson I believe (hull). Ranger sells aluminum bassboats and walleyeboats on hulls from Crestliner.
Companies do this to fill a niche to help out loyal "brand name" customers stay with their dealers as much as anything. I'm not a "lund guy", but it makes sense to offer products people want with the label they want on it.
I don't see this as any indictment of rivets.
T
Seriously, why do you believe it is superior to welded? I know it is the cheapest, fastest way to build a boat, but why do you think it is the best way?
Harold
09-09-2002, 06:00 AM
I think it is amazing that the same company can make all those lines and you still have people who defend the use of rivets or welds like there is no tomorrow. You'd think they would demand the same level of loyalty from their boat company as they have for the products.
Jesse W
09-09-2002, 01:24 PM
My cousin toured the factory, and I didn't think Lund had the technology to make welded boats. Maybe they are sub contracting it out through Crestliner or Tracker? :)
Scott
09-09-2002, 03:18 PM
Genmar owns a boat maker called NOVA. They make welded alum. bass boats, but specialize in duck boats. Very well made and are not cheap.
This plant also makes or made the duck boats for Ranger and Crestliner. Take a look at them, then the NOVA. They are the same boat. I'll bet that Lund is doing the same.
Duck hunters in the south seem to want the welded hulls. Can't say why. I've seen firsthand the total destruction they can do to a welded hull. Lund wasn't offering much of a selection of this type of boat. Why tool up when Genmar has a plant geared for it in existance?
T-Mac
09-09-2002, 07:39 PM
All that is "LUND" is the decal on the side, and the warranty.
Annnnd....
That "double riveted seam - lifetime warranty" isn't there on the all welded jon boats... obviously. :-)
LUND is just trying to help some dealers get some jon boats instead of having them send the customers wanting one to a different store.
Todd's Buddy
09-09-2002, 07:44 PM
Remeber when Irwin Jacobs bought the OMC boat group?
Well...then you may remember "RoughNeck" and "Lowe". Remember how they made Jon boats?
Remember now, Irwin Jacobs also owns Lund?
Connect the dots.
One of these days, your going to see a manufacture come out with a 1/4 inch thick, one piece, heat treated, slightly flexable, homogonized aluminum hydroformed boat that weighs less than a conventional aluminum boat of the same length.
Next revelation. When is someone going to come out with a rotary outboard. Ford has a new 250 RENESIS roatry in there new F8 Madza. Beautiful car. Look under Rotary or RENESIS on the Internet. All Ford would have to do is adapt this High HP, High Toque motor to a marine application and they would take the marine industry by storm.
chadk66
09-21-2002, 08:39 AM
Perchjerker,
you crack me up everytime you make that reference to the welded jumbo jets. Man could you imagine power trolling out of one of those above a hurricane with all those fish that get sucked out of the ocean. I wonder what kind of line you'd need to use.
perchjerker
09-21-2002, 08:47 AM
LOL Chad, probably a downrigger with a refrigerator sized ball would be better.
I was thinking about this thread last night at the bike shop. I bought a new Trek with an aluminum frame. I asked the salesguy why they dont rivet them. He looked me like I was strange (he was right on that one!!);)
Actually, for the record, I have no problem with either process. Just so happens the boat I own is welded.