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Gumbo
06-30-2001, 11:42 AM
I read this on another fishing board, and supposedly it came from a newspaper article...

Scales of Injustice
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has new billboards out that claim fishing is cruel. I totally agree. The last time I went, all I caught was a sunburn, three hooks in the back of my thigh and ##### from my pals for forgetting the Off. Unfortunately, this is not what PETA means. PETA means fishing is cruel to the fish. Seriously. PETA plans to put up billboards across the U.S. and in Canada that show a Labrador retriever with a hook in his bloody lip. IF YOU WOULDN'T DO IT TO A DOG, the signs say, WHY DO IT TO A FISH? And, of course, the answer is: Because fish do not bring me my slippers. Look, I wailed for the whales. I fumed over fur. I emotionally clubbed myself over the baby seals. But I'll be ****ed if I'm going to weep over a walleye. PETA says fish feel pain and that to snag one with a steel hook, drag it along for 50 yards or so and then haul it out of the water so it suffocates is sick. "Why do we throw a Frisbee to some animals and a barbed hook to others?" PETA asks on its website. And, of course, the answer is: Because fish really suck at catching Frisbees. PETA thinks it's evil to eat fish, too. But why should we stop eating them when they eat each other? Besides, they had their chance to evolve. They could've crawled out of the primordial ooze with us, but they didn't. They decided to stay behind and swim in the water they pee in and go around never blinking. When fish lift their scaly butts past us in the food chain, they can eat us. Until then, pass the tartar sauce. PETA even says catch-and-release is cruel. They say the harm and stress caused by being caught and released is sometimes enough to kill the fish later on. As if the fish go straight into therapy after being caught. Fish: I'm telling you, Doc, I was just minding my own business when I got hauled into the sky, examined by some weird beings and then thrown back! Fish psychiatrist: Lemme guess. A UFO, right? I mean, what's PETA going to do? You'll be sitting at the counter in the deli, and suddenly, the PETA police will come running in, shouting, "All right, back away from the tuna melt and nobody gets hurt!" My God, we're talking about fish here. Fish have a brain the size of a corn kernel. Professor James Rose, a University of Wyoming neuroscientist, studied fish for years and determined that they lack a neocortex (parts of which process the brain's response to pain), much like Cubs fans. Besides, if fish are so smart, why can you catch a fish, throw it back and then, two hours later, catch the same fish? I mean, do you really want to save something dumber than Robert Downey Jr.? Didn't Jesus fish? He seemed like a pretty sensitive guy. When He zapped up all those fishes for 5,000 people, what do you think He did with them, throw them back?
>I know, I know -- I hate hunting. But sitting in the back of a pickup, taking a rifle with an infrared scope and killing a deer from 1,000 yards away is not nearly the same thing as standing up to your spleen in icy rushing river water, trying to cast the perfectly tied fly into the perfect eddy to catch a rainbow trout. Is it our fault that the trout falls for it? Tell you what: I will get behind hunting when hunters come up with a shoot-and-release program. Why does PETA stop at fish? Where does PETA stand on the plight of the worm? And plankton? And the 1,000,000 micro-organisms that are crushed by your boots every time you go on a nature hike? Have these PETA vegetarians ever gotten close to a broccoli to hear its screams as it's violently yanked from its birthplace and boiled to death? Fishing is cruel? I always thought fishing was one of the most peaceful things you could do. What are fathers and sons supposed to do together, knit sweaters out of each other's navel lint? What are we supposed to read, Hemingway's Old Man and the Parking Lot? I'll tell you one thing. Before I agree to this whole fish-human truce, somebody had better have a long face-to-face with the sharks about it. I say we send a bunch of PETA members down right away.

Gumbo
06-30-2001, 11:46 AM
Here's a link to a picture of the billboard. This one is in Spanish Fork canyon an hour or so south of Salt Lake. http://www.summittech.com/wayne/images/peta.jpg

Mad Hatter
06-30-2001, 02:39 PM
Hey, I Peta as much as the next guy or gal. But dont dothem the justice of giving them hits. Also, you AOL people, why do you support a provider that is so anti gun they stink? Time warner is the biggest Lib organization out there. Your 20 bucks a month goes, in part, to help spread the anti gun whacko rhetoric. Okay, maybe you dont hunt. But do you target shoot? If not do you respect your brothers/sons/friends right to? This is not some stupid a$$ right, like a dogs right to a clean dry bed. This is a right, in the US Constitution. When (over my dead body) the anti's get not only hunting, but guns banned do you think they will stop? NO WAY! They are already attacking fishing! Tell AOL to go to H#ll! I am looking into a web provider called Outdoors Unlimited.They back our right to fish and hunt and a portion of your monthly fee (cheaper than AOHell) goes to the sportsmans group of your choice.Not too shabby huh? The time to sit on your bacon rind eating butts is over. This is a cyber and social call to arms! Band together to fight the whackos in this war! They fired the first shot, it is our time to rise up and crush the anti anything crowd! I treat my dogs well, better than any, I bled for the whales. I care about clean air and I worship our Lord God and creator. (which, by the way, is another reason the anti's hate us, we (most of us) beleive in God and Family. Aol had gotten my last 20 bucks! Now go eat an animal today! Or a walleye! Yummmmmmmmmmmmm!

tim(wi)
06-30-2001, 03:10 PM
Dennis,

Your post makes no sense to me. You hate hunting because, I guess you think it is cruel. But since you like fishing it is O.K. and how dare somone attack it. Is that not being hypocritical? And my next question is why are you visiting Peta's web site? Your post just seems out of whack and if I miss read it I apoligize.

Gumbo
06-30-2001, 04:24 PM
It's a reprint of an AP article written by Rick Reilly.

Not reading too much into it, I appreciated his humor and common-sense approach to PETA's antics. I read a lot of ranting about PETA on this site, and Mr. Reilly's outlash is much more eloquent. And while I don't agree with his hunting comment, the fact that the author doesn't hunt lends a certain sense of credibility to his argument, don't you think?

Lord Jah of the Truth
06-30-2001, 04:56 PM
He hates hunting, his choice. Sitting in the back of a pickup with a rifle? Illegal! 1000 yard shot? Good job man! Youare a marksman! Join a group today that will fight for your rights as a sportsman. You pick one.

Fish Info Al
07-01-2001, 05:11 AM
Just tell PETA, for every fish caught, you save 10,000 other fishes lives, that fish would have eaten. How is that for an argument?

Bob G2
07-01-2001, 05:12 AM
Nice article, and I did like his humor. To elaborate on the "fish feeling pain" stuff, I believe fish very much lack the
nerves ( no class Ia or b myelinated fibers), along with central nervous system connection (cerebrum and a primative thalamus) to
support PETA's analogy of "fish feeling pain",in the sense that higher order animals do. Moreover, there is absolutely no basis to support their transference of pain into a higher order function of "suffering". If fish suffer, how do they know? Did they ask them? To say that the fish we catch "suffer" when we hook them makes as much sense as my reply, "How would you know, maybe they like it".

While alot of this know already, I think alot of the public out there doesn't realize the untenable hypocrisy that PETA holds forth. It is only acceptable by their standards to not hunt and fish, but they have no answer for the ramifications their "vege
only" consumption provides. Do they cry for the prairie dogs, and mice and songbirds that are destroyed when a field is plowed under, or do they hold protests over the death of millions of insects that die just to get an acceptable produce yield?

Sooner or later, we will to highlight their hypocrisies before the court of public opinion sways against us. Remember, they are not necessarily just trying to change us, but also, targeting your kids. In the future, will your son or daughter become the target of ostracism and isolation by their peers just because they hunt of fish???

cisco
07-01-2001, 05:29 AM
Not that it's central to the issue, but that's the strangest looking "Labrador retireiver" I've ever seen.

But, who can help me out? I'm trying to figure out a system for Smash and Release. I smash all sorts of flying wildlife on the frontend of my van every year during bug season (roughly 7 months in my part of Minnesota). I know I'm putting their heads thru their A-holes, but wonder what I can do to save all the little critters. I just hate to be so cruel to harmless animals (OK, so some, such as wasps, hornets, mosquitoes, etc., are not so "harmless"), but someone just has to help me stop this wanton killing.

Any help?

Greg W
07-01-2001, 05:51 AM
Look at the photo, no background, size of the dogs eyes, and the credibility of the people that produced it. Don't you think the dog would be using it's paws to remove this hook, not siiting there looking for a treat?
These people did the same thing to trappers staging photo's of dead animals in traps, it was all a fund raising campaign, don't fall into their trap of sympathy for money. They've never done anything for animals except exploit them.

Greg W

groovymoe
07-01-2001, 06:26 AM
I thought P.E.T.A. stood for People eating tasty animals. I also understand that vegetarian is Navaho for lousy hunter. Whack em' and stack em' ( the animal rights retards ) and keep on hookin' and cookin'.

Cangl
07-01-2001, 11:48 AM
Dennis fish suck at catching frisbees? Know that for sure?
Might be a good topic for the WC muskie page, maybe downsize the fribees a bit and use a sinking one?

Beastality
07-01-2001, 12:22 PM
What about all the physical and emotional pain we cause when we have our way with the farm family. Oh, I forgot, that is just freedom to express ourselves. PETA SUCKS!

Gumbo
07-01-2001, 01:54 PM
Teeth marks in your dipsey diver again? lol

DAN 383
07-01-2001, 03:29 PM
The real question is did a University Of Wyoming Neuroscientist ever study " A Cub's Fan ? "......><>

cisco
07-02-2001, 02:56 AM
Cubs fans are subjects for all sorts of research, but especially masochism.

BIG AL
07-02-2001, 10:14 AM
Like we say up here in Michigan... if it runs it's done, if it's brown it's down, if it flies it dies..... PETA people are little whiners, not diners!!! ><> ><> AL