View Full Version : princecraft SP210 SE or a Lund 2025EFI
guest
05-28-2003, 03:47 PM
I have narrowed it down to these two. I do lake fishing, river fishing and big water fishing on the Great Lakes. I like the depth of the Princecraft but the 2025 is hard to turn down. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
King Possum
05-28-2003, 04:17 PM
I've never been in either. However I'd go with the Lund based on the name recognition for future resale value. I'm sure Prinecraft is a fine boat but if you put the 2 up for sale I'd bet the Lund would sell first and you would get top dollar for it. Just my .02. KP
I don't know what your 2025efi refers to but you are comparing 2 of the finest boats on the water - the differences are minor in overall layout and fishability. Fit and finish is a bit better on the Princecraft and they also use a higher grade of aluminum in their construction. (5052H36 as compared to 5052H34).
Big water fishing calls for a higher degree of security and the deeper Princecraft is superior in that element.
I don't buy into the argument of resale value - been around too long and seen too many things when it comes to valuing used equipment. The shape a used boat is in dictates its resale value not its name.
All in all you are looking at the best so it will boil down to personal preference - you won't lose going either direction but pay attention to the realities of what purpose you intend to put the boat to and enjoy.
King Possum
05-29-2003, 09:47 AM
McQ,
I don't agree with your views on the resale part. I don't know what the circumstances are in Canada with brand awareness but here in the midwest Lund is the big name in aluminum boats ( and no I don't own one I have a Ranger ). Princecraft is a lesser name with alot less exposure. Not to say that Princecraft isn't a fine boat just you don't see alot of them compared to Lunds here. I agree that condition of the rig means everything when it comes to resale.
rogerm52
05-29-2003, 10:23 AM
Both are great boats and you can't go wrong.
If you are going to spend a lot of time fishing from the bow of the boat, go with the Lund as the front area is much more than the Princecraft.
If you are going to spend most of your time fishing from the back (trolling) and will be on big water where the waves can be large, go with the princecraft, you will appreciate the taller sides.
--Roger
Had your dilemma this year and ended up with a Tyee Ltd. 1950 and could'nt be happier. Princecraft is a good boat, but in the end I opted for the Lund based on past performance from friends...don't discount the Tyee, it has as much if not more freeboard than the Princecraft and equiped the same are not that much different in price.
Also has a 25" transom and 98" beam( in the Ltd)...I'll use it on Superior, Michigan, Lac Seul, LOTW as well as smaller lakes here in WI...
Johon
05-29-2003, 02:00 PM
Prinecraft is basically up and coming. We are begining to see more and more here in Minnesota.
Micky
05-29-2003, 03:12 PM
Hello, I would go with the princecraft just so you don't have to be associated with the whinny lund crowd...Not sure which boat is better, as I would not own a riveted boat...Micky
Robert
05-29-2003, 05:18 PM
I should have said 2025 EFS instead of EFI. I already know the motor I am going to buy but not yet the Boat. Thanks to all who have responded thus far. Greatly appreciate your thoughts.
Per the April 2003 issue of Trailer Boats magazine, article entitled "Wood vs. Composite", Princecraft uses untreated plywood in their transoms because they claim wolmanized wood is treated with arsenic and arsenic releases gases that attack aluminum. Per that same article, they do however state that they (Princecraft) use treated wood for their decks and offer a limited lifetime warranty on both decks and transoms.
But isn't a warranty only good as long as the boat builder is still in business? I've seen boat building companies come and go.
hooky
05-30-2003, 04:03 AM
I own a Lund and have since driven a Princecraft. My next boat will be a Princecraft if the price is right. They seem to be a bit more in price than Lund but their fit and finish can not be beat! It is a very solid boat.
BRAD,
FYI, on the princecraft website, they do indeed use pressure treated wood deck covered with marine carpet.
Princecraft will be celebrating their 50th anniversary in 2004, part of the Brunswick Group now, sharing in the success that divisions such as Mercury have enjoyed for years.
It is interesting to note that before the OMC bankruptcy Princecraft was the only profitable division. Well managed and very inovative, expect to see the Princecraft brand taking a much larger presence in the US marketplace.
Their hulls have been my choice for the last twenty years, I have enjoyed fishing their boats, everything from a 14' cartopper to the SP 188 BT. I believe that once you have the opportunity to fish out of and experience the quality and security that Princecraft products represent you will be a happy fisherman too. When you spend a 100 days + on the water every year like I do - you can get in to some pretty wild rides - my Princecraft has always got me home safely and been ready to go out the next morning.
If this sounds like a commercial I apologize, it's simply the truth from one of many satisfied Princecraft owners who has lived with the changes and experienced enough of the other builders products to know when the fit is right.
I didn't say they didn't use treated wood in the floor. I said that as per the article, they claim that they do not use treated wood in the TRANSOM.
$umday
06-02-2003, 06:18 PM
I just bought my brand new 2001 Princecraft Super pro 210 with an Evinrude 175 ficht. I have not had the chance to have it out very much but I can tell you this it is the nicest riding boat that I have ever been in. My previous boat was a Cruisers Inc 26' with a cabin, it weighed over 5500 lbs and I think that my Princecraft rides as good on rough water as my Cruisers did. I have been told that my boat is under powered but it is fast enough for me and my family (wife and two eight year olds). When I take her to the lake ( the boat of course) everyone asks what kind of boat she is and they say how nice she looks, I just say thanks and that she rides as nice as she looks. All and all I would put my boat up against any boat in its class as far as fit and finish along with a dry ride and really stable at rest and at full speed and fish ability. I just hope the motor will stand up as well as the boat. Good luck in making your choice.
Lund for sure.
Resale is excellant on lunds. Don't know much about Princecrafts but I would get a lund.
Maybe it's time to do a heads up catalogue comparison between the two - Heres the 18' tiller models - one of the more popular models for us walleye guys.
http://www.lundboats.com/index.cfm?intMenuItemID=2782&strLocation=Content&strLundBoatsAction=DISPLAYMODELFEATURESANDOPTIONS&intModelID=13
http://www.princecraft.com/apps/products/specifications.jsp?lang=E&ID=8541&familyID=6605&RootID=6607
What's standard, what's optional, construction, etc. I think a little investigation of what Princecraft has going for it maybe, just maybe might surprise a few of you fellows.
What source do you use as Princecraft being the only profitable boat division OMC had? I happen to have other information...namely Seaswirl. Profitable and lowest in warranty claims of all the boat divisions in that organization.That came from dealer information I had when they were with OMC.
pwrfshn
06-03-2003, 12:47 PM
Don't have a comparrison to make yet, but I will after the weekend.
My Lund has been less than satisfying for the interior components. Knowing the hull is the important issue for me as well as ride, I will be looking closely at the Princecraft I will be fishing out of for three days this weekend.
If you get the Lund make sure there is a dealer nearby that will stand up for you when stuff starts falling apart. The interior of my boat is falling apart a little at a time and is less than one year old. I do have over 1500 hours on the boat, but I still think that the wear and tear is showing more than it should on a boat of that caliber and price tag. Next time I will buy a gutted Pro V and build everyhthing into the boat myself. For those of us who buy a boat for the duratiuon (not a 1 year pro) it needs to be built to last for more than one hard season.
The Lund has a great ride, is fishable, and has never made me nervous in bad weather. As for the re-sale argument, it only holds if you are in the right areas. In the NM desert if it isn't a tracker or smokercraft, you might as well give it away. Sold my Lund Rebel for $6,000 below re-sale.
My .02,
It all started here Al http://www.boatbiz.com/news.asp?N_ID=20671&mode=4 and continued on a number of discussion forums.
I will concede that glass boats weren't considered in most of the discussions and if your information is true, please accept my apology.