1900 Pro V LE Lund Popping rivets

[Walleye Wrangler]

I've got a 1900 pro v LE lund 1998 I've had since it was new. I've had it into the dealership at least 4 times to have rivets replaced in the bow area. The last time they had to remove the upper deck and the subfloor and repair a broken weld on the keel as well as replace several rivets. I've only had the boat out five times since I got it back after repairs, at Christmas time, and I've really been babying it. But now I've got three missing rivets and one about come out and three more loose ones. Has anyone else had this experience? and what did you do. I love my Lund, and the dealership has been really good about getting it repaired, but I'm getting a little frustrated at this point.

[Stealth]

I've got a 1999 ProV SE and just yesterday I found 2 popped rivets on the port side freeboard 2 inches above the splash rail. The rivets appear to be in-line with the step up to the bow platform just behinf the gas cap.

How many rivets have you lost?? What locations??

[BATMAN]

Hi guys,

I have a 1997 Pro-V SE ¥1775¤© I have had one
rivet shear off© I had the most annoying slow
leak until I found the rivet one day I put the
boat on the trailer a bit to one side© Repaired
it and I'm good to go© I think I did the rivet
in during my slightly aggressive trailer loading©
I have a bunk Shoreland trailer© I would imagine
a roller trailer would be even harder on rivets on
power trailer loading at the ramp©

BATMAN

[Walleye Wrangler]

I've had them pop on the port and starboard sides, mainly on the port side. Its the first vertical row on the bow down to the keel. I've got a trailmaster trailer and it's the bunk style. I don't believe I've been hard on it while loading it.

[REW]

You might check with the Lund Factory on this issue.
In many different boat makes; popping rivets were generally a sign of overstressed fastners.
Generally the fix, was to add, additional internal braces, as well as added fastners, to reduce the stress on individual fastners.
Often, the internal bracing would be augmented, by added layers of hull thickness as well.

Since your problem appears to be a reoccurring problem, and this doesn't appear to be a common problem with your model boat; it is possible that some internal structure was left out of your boat.


Double check with lund engineering, to insure that your boat was built correctly.

Take care
REW

[walter]

Wrangler,

I've had that same line of rivets replaced on my 1996 1775 Pro-V three times. It's the first wall in front of the gas tank that runs the width of the boat. Make sure that you look things over very carefully. I found that some of the brackets that hold the gas tank in place were also broken. Also, there is an "L" shaped bracket that attaches the wall to the main "I" beams that run the length of the boat. In my boat the "I" beams were cracked out around the fasteners.

My theory is that the movement in the gas tank is putting too much foreword pressure on the wall and is causing the rivets to work loose. Think about how much force 25 gallons of gas sloshing forward can put on that wall.

What I did was secure the gas tank so that it can not move. I also added some bracing between the two walls in the livewell pump area so that one wall doesn't have to support all of the pressure. The dealer also added extra rivets. So far the rivets and the new supports have held up good.

I hope that Lund recognizes that there is a potential problem in there design and makes some changes in the future.

[Dealer]

Do not fear. There are design changes going on continously. Your boat is a 1996 1775. The newer 1775's aren't the same boat as yours.

[tom betka]

Unfortunately for the guys having problems, they were part of the 'learning curve.'
TB

[Learn This]

Everyone on earth who buys anything manufactured is part of "the learning curve", as you put it.
In all product lines design changes become necessary as ALL manufacturers progress and learn from experience and work to improve their products.
"Dealer" was addressing the posters concern as to a future design change for a 1996 boat. He answered affirmatively.
Your post is innapropriate, pointless and offensive.
Hopefully you are just a jerk, rather than simply as stupid as your post makes you appear?

[Well Now ...]

>Everyone on earth who buys anything manufactured is part of
>"the learning curve", as you put it.
>In all product lines design changes become necessary as ALL
>manufacturers progress and learn from experience and work to
>improve their products.
>"Dealer" was addressing the posters concern as to a future
>design change for a 1996 boat. He answered affirmatively.
>Your post is innapropriate, pointless and offensive.
>Hopefully you are just a jerk, rather than simply as stupid
>as your post makes you appear?

Actually, HIS post was fine. YOUR post is the one out of line.

Your name-calling is what is inappropriate and offensive. He has a right to post his observation without you doing that.

As far as buyers being part of the "learning curve", there are techniques and concepts such as Design of Experiments, Design Teaming, and CadCam which both speed up the process and reduce errors. The days when the public tolerated being guinea pigs for manufacturers are coming to a close and good riddance to them.

[tom betka]

Spoken like a TRUE idiot... I love guys like you--always psychoanalyzing other's posts, from the safety of anonymity.

If you think about it for a second, you might realize that I simply made an observation; nothing more, nothing less. I didn't criticize the manufacturer, or engage in name-calling. In my book, as long as the company stands behind their product in a case like this, then great. No problem. It's just a boat...

You need to get some Valium, and just relax. Maybe do a little fishing?

TB

[KIds at play]

Settle down boys mama will settle this problem.Go to your rooms and go to sleep,no using the computor so us intelligent people can talk friendly towards each other about boats and motors.

[tom betka]

Yeah...you're right. Not worth it, but I couldn't resist a troll like that.

Sorry.

TB

[Tracker Boy]

and the people on this board bash you if you don't own a lund!!!!! Just goes to show you all manufactures have problems with there products EVEN OVER PRICED LUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My .02



TRACKER

[NotSoSure]

>and the people on this board bash you if you don't own a
>lund!!!!! Just goes to show you all manufactures have problems
>with there products EVEN OVER PRICED LUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My
>.02


TrackerBoy,

I don't mean this to be offensive in any manner at all.

But, I have seen several posts where you make the same point. I am wondering if people might just be pulling your chain to get a reaction from you, or if maybe you made a lot of posts expounding on the virtues of owning a tracker and thereby painted a target on yourself (or maybe Tracker 185 did that for you Tracker owners), or maybe you are overly sensitive.

As an Alumacraft owner, I did not feel any descrimination directed my way. I have indeed seen a few posts with negatives about Crestliner and Tracker ... more about the former than the latter. My recollection is that the majority of posts directed at Tracker were posted by angry Tracker owners who felt they were being dumped on by Tracker. I could be wrong, but that is the impression I have on the topic.

I have lately also seen several posts by Lund owners critical of Lunds. Specifically, they mention paint issues, rivet issues, being told by Lund customer service reps not to talk on this site about their Lund problems (which is a REALLY bad/dumb move on Lund's part!), etc.

Maybe you are being a tad too sensitive. All of us like to take pride in out boats and you are welcome to do that too. But maybe you are reading things into posts that are not intended by the authors and then making yourself upset. Life is too short to do stuff like that. Been there myself. Take some advice from me ... let it go. You will be a lot happier.

Meanwhile, as my favorite country artist Travist Tritt says, "It's a great day to be alive" and I am going to sit on my patio in the sun while I read the Sunday paper and then I am going fishing. You are invited to come along.