Patriot Boat transom design

[Tom P]

I just talked to Steve Worrall of Patriot boats. I talked to him about their transoms. BOY, Do these guys get it!! The transoms are a 2 1/2 solid fiberglass with an aluminum "H" beam imbedded/composited inside the transom going all the way across the full length of the transom at the upper bolt holes. Then there is an "H" assembly of those "H" beams that go through the bottom engine bolt holes and are tied into the top "H" beam. These are tied into the transom and stringers with up to 4 knees that are integrated into the transom and stringers to make a one piece transom stringer system. TOTALLY IMPRESSIVE TO SAY THE LEAST. They will warranty any length of jackplate without question. ( I can see why.)

[sevenmmm]

When are you going to buy one?

[Future Patriot Guy]

Ya, when you gonna buy one Tom? This boat gets its heritage from offshore racing and the way the hulls are built, the stringer, fllors transom and cap are all one piece when it is done. IMO it is one of the best built boats out there. And talk about good price???

[Tom P]

1) Yar-Craft 1785 Wrangler FOR SALE!!!! YEPPIIIIIIIIIII !!!!! No no, I wish I could sell it. The wife wouldn't go for it. We are tight on cash, and too much on credit. I just paid it off. Just out of curiosity, what would a 1999 1785 Wrangler with a 99 V-Max 150 in excellent shape and low, low hours go for W /Shorlandr roller???

[fishfart]

I hear youthere man! I am fixin to open the whole box of "Pis sed off Wife" when I tell her I am goin for a new rig. I suggest trying to find the Nada price guidelines for you rig.Good luck, aint no shame in waitin till you get in financially better position to buy.

[sevenmmm]

Am one of the fortunate people to have purchased a Patriot 2050DC Walk-Through this summer. If your live near, or get close to Manitowoc, Wisconsin - contact me through e-mail at sevenmmm@sbcglobal.net , and I would be happy to introduce you to the Patriot.

[brad b]

http://www.nadaguides.com

You'll have to look up the boat, motor, and trailer separately, but it should give you a pretty decent price...

Don't tell your wife I told you..., it bad enough she'll be mad at you ;)

[Tom P]

I can't wait to see one of these boats. It is nice to see a boat company that knows the transom is one of the most important parts of a boat. Ranger and Triton have figured that out already, with some other walleye boat manufacture at least trying to beef up their transoms for long term jackplate use. The Patriot has 2.5 inches of solid fiberglass and a structure of "H" beams inside the transom for rigidity . I was always told that 1 1/2 inches of 13 ply marine grade plywood with 1/4 inch of fiberglass on both sides with almost no bracing would handle the long term stress of a jackplate. You put those two transom designs together to compare, one looks like a transom made out of "cooled rolled blue steel" and the other looks like a transom made out of a "willow tree".

I took the advice of the above post and checked the NADA book, That really did not help me much. The price they gave me was higher or the same that I paid back in the year 2000. I bought my boat as a non-current at one place. I bought the V-Max at another place in the crate, and trailer at another. I got great prices on all of them. But almost 4 years later, I would have thought I would have lost some $$$. Ultimately, I would like to keep the motor and sell the boat and trailer and get a new Patriot and trailer. Then maybe a Merc guy would buy it if he did not want a Yamaha on back. There may be only one thing that I heard that Patriot needs to work on, the interior design needs some more refinement. Give them a year or two and that should change. Sounds like these guys DON'T have their head in the sand when it comes to boat building.

[Tom P]

I can't wait to see one of these boats. It is nice to see a boat company that knows the transom is one of the most important parts of a boat. Ranger and Triton have figured that out already, with some other walleye boat manufacture at least trying to beef up their transoms for long term jackplate use. The Patriot has 2.5 inches of solid fiberglass and a structure of "H" beams inside the transom for rigidity . I was always told that 1 1/2 inches of 13 ply marine grade plywood with 1/4 inch of fiberglass on both sides with almost no bracing would handle the long term stress of a jackplate. You put those two transom designs together to compare, one looks like a transom made out of "cooled rolled blue steel" and the other looks like a transom made out of a "willow tree".

I took the advice of the above post and checked the NADA book, That really did not help me much. The price they gave me was higher or the same that I paid back in the year 2000. I bought my boat as a non-current at one place. I bought the V-Max at another place in the crate, and trailer at another. I got great prices on all of them. But almost 4 years later, I would have thought I would have lost some $$$. Ultimately, I would like to keep the motor and sell the boat and trailer and get a new Patriot and trailer. Then maybe a Merc guy would buy it if he did not want a Yamaha on back. There may be only one thing that I heard that Patriot needs to work on, the interior design needs some more refinement. Give them a year or two and that should change. Sounds like these guys DON'T have their head in the sand when it comes to boat building.

[Tom P]

The wife can't see selling a almost brand new boat for another new boat. The Yar-Craft is still a B- boat over all. Not a good enough reason to sell right away. It would be nice, but doesn't make sense with the low hour time we get on her after we had kids. If we fished like we did before, I know I could justify the switch.

[Where are they now]

Seems Yar-Craft has not to much to say when another boat manufacture kicks @ss on a transom setup. You where right all the time! I like the compairasent of cold rolled blue steel to a willow tree. LOL.

[Future Patriot Guy]

LOL! Seriously though, what would you have them say? In all honesty, it is not my intent to downplay any manufacturers product. I certainly can't make a better boat than Yar Craft at home. There are a lot of good boats out there, some better than others. But there are many more opinions. But I did choose Patriot for a lot of reasons, the construction process and tansom stringer strength included. But since I am going to most likely get a 17 foot tiller model, I dont think I will need to worry bout that transom. And I could not believe the price for what I want to get. We are talking fully appointed, with a 4 stroke, for the equivalent price of a tin boat. I have even seen some comperable aluminum boats at higher prices! This is a truely great boat that almost anyone can afford. But then again, most of that is just my opinion. Take it for what it is worth.

[Rob Stratton]

Just feel like I have to chime in on the subject, being a Patriot 2050DC owner. The boat kick's donket butt. By far the best built boat on the water and very fishable too. I have one of the first walleye baots produced so there are some "refinements" in the new models that I don't currently have. If you'd like to buy an awesome boat give me a call I will be able to give her up September 1st.
By the way, my boat has a throw in piece of carpet floor, I never use it. It's finished like a fishing baot shold be, take her to the car wash and rinse her out, just like the big salt water baots. I wish Jim wouldn't have changed this in the new boats.
Rob Stratton

[gst]

They may be good boats but when are they going to make some good looking boats? The performance may be there but the plain white colored ones I have seen are just ugly compared to the looks of the competition.

[Tom P]

Yea, Patriot does needs some work to beautify their line. Hopefully in a year or two they will work on that a bit.

[Future Patriot Guy]

So sparkles are an important part of a boat? I think the Patriots lines are awesome, and the graphics make for a smart looking boat. It is functional as all get out. 30 miles an hour in 3 foot waves with a bow that just knifes the waves. Smoothest ride I have ever had in said conditions. I have been on that particular body of water many times in Rangers, Champions, Lunds, Smoker Crafts and a few others and nothing was like the ride in the Patriot. You can have your sparkledy boats, been there, done that. I am gonna stick with a serious fishin rig and only eat my lunch once.

[Future Patriot Guy]

I thought about my last post and wanted to add, glittery boats are fine and dandy. I have owned my share of em. But there is no substitute for the ease of care and ease of cost of repair for a white glass hull. To each his own, but if you are looking for a boat that is all sparkeldy, and that ends up being a deciding factor, you are not giving the more important factors of build and ride/performance a fair shake. Just MHO.

[Tom P]

I myself like white boats too. I don't know if adding 100lbs of glitter and adding the added cost of that option ( on some brands that would charge you for that option) is worth it. Looks of a boat can also be helped out by the graphics too. Take Yar-Craft as an example. I have a 99 1785 Wrangler. Mine has the maroon upper gel coat band around the whole boat. A year or two later they came out with a totally white boat with their new side sweeping logo that I think makes the boat look a lot nicer. It just fits the design of the boat better. Some guys, like the guy above may only like glitter, that is where they hopefully will come out with that option. I know you now can get glitter in a Yar-Craft, at least you could a couple of years ago.

[Future Patriot Guy]

Options make any boat more attractive to more people. And yes it is more expensive to make polyflaked boats, especially if there are different colors. It ads substantially to the labor costs. I also agree the graphics on the new Yar Crafts makes them look much better than your boat does. Though it is not a bad looking boat. My whole pointm is guys get so hyped on looks and do not consider substance. And that is the most important factor in buying a boat. If you want one that solely looks good sitting in the driveway or on the back of a truck, then buy one for that reason. If you want an affordable boat that will outperform them prettiest boats out there, then consider build and fishability over status.

[Patriot Powerboats]

There are 8 gel colors available at this time. The small and mid range Patriot Powerboats are built using robotics, so polyflake is not in the immediate future until we have the robotic cells finished for all 11 models.

The 23.5, 26.5, and 33 foot models will be built in white with racing graphic packages, as those are inboard Powerboats. The overall fishing line will be white standard, as when the boat is sprayed the robotics do not know if the rig is destined for fresh or saltwater. The custom colors will be run 4 at a time for the same reason.We are selecting some new graphics that will jazz the boats up quite a bit, using polyflake graphic kits one might see on a race car or hot rod.

[Future Patriot Guy]

COLORS??? Gee, ya learn something new everyday! Hmmm, I still think the white hull would look real sweet with even snappier graphics!