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Old 03-25-2012, 06:27 PM
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Ah, the best deer rifle is chambered for 257 Roberts, 6.5X55mm "Swede", or a300 Savage(but only if the Savage is a model 99 rifle).
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Old 03-25-2012, 08:08 PM
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I disagree, maybe the most common, but not the best. there is no best. there are a lot of people that don't really know much about bullets and calibers. today compared to 50 years ago, we have so many choices of bullets that are designated to each caliber. bullet construction is far more important than the size of the cartridge. a 243 is a great gun. if you want a caliber that has minimal kick and great balistic charactoristics, you may want to look at a 7mm-08. there are so many choices out there today as far as good calibers, it is hard to go wrong as long as you use the correct bullet.
Well said. I recommend the 7mm-08 to all my friends who want to get their kids into deer hunting.
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:42 PM
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Remington .308. I use it for everything, love that caliber....
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:00 PM
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270 or 308 for me. When I hunt the woods the 308 works better for me with a 165 grain bullet. the 270 is a flat long range IMHO
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:36 PM
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With info like that i can see why you would not enter into gun conversatoins. Really the only difference between a bull barell and a sporter is how fast it heats up. BBl length may make a few fps difference. Explain to me the really good ballistics on the .308. I am a .308 pimp but there are much better options if you are looking at ballistics only perspective. If some one cant kill a deer with a .243 they need to hang up the gun and call it quits. The main problem is people dont practice and shoot deer in the guts and blame the gun. It goes shot placement, bullet constucttion and head stamp as the least important
This kind of response is exactly why I don't normally get involved with gun conversation. All I did was share my experience with a .243. When you put 2 shots of a .243 right through both lungs of a whitetail standing broadside at 75 yards and the deer just stands there wondering what the noise is all about its time to hang up the .243. For the third shot I took him in the head. Even my son only hunted with his .243 one year as he had the same kind of experience.

PS: I have never crippled or lost a deer in 44 years of gun hunting.
Oh and did I mention that I really, really like my .308.
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:58 PM
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This kind of response is exactly why I don't normally get involved with gun conversation. All I did was share my experience with a .243. When you put 2 shots of a .243 right through both lungs of a whitetail standing broadside at 75 yards and the deer just stands there wondering what the noise is all about its time to hang up the .243. For the third shot I took him in the head. Even my son only hunted with his .243 one year as he had the same kind of experience.

PS: I have never crippled or lost a deer in 44 years of gun hunting.
Oh and did I mention that I really, really like my .308.
You're trying to tell us that the difference in the thickness of the barrel makes a difference on the ballistic performance when the bullet hits the animal? IF so you have no clue about ballistics and bullet performance. Maybe you should look at the actual bullets you were shooting instead of the caliber of them. Or maybe look at your shooting because a well made 243 bullet (designed for deer) will kill any whitetail that ever walked if put through it's lungs. There are of course always that odd shot that doesn't kill as quick as you would think but that can happen with any caliber, sometime stuff just happens! I shot a little buck right through the lungs with a 375 H&H and it ran 100yds and the next deer I shot with it (within about 3" of the same spot) dropped on the spot. Using one example is not a very good statistic.
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This kind of response is exactly why I don't normally get involved with gun conversation. All I did was share my experience with a .243. When you put 2 shots of a .243 right through both lungs of a whitetail standing broadside at 75 yards and the deer just stands there wondering what the noise is all about its time to hang up the .243. For the third shot I took him in the head. Even my son only hunted with his .243 one year as he had the same kind of experience.

PS: I have never crippled or lost a deer in 44 years of gun hunting.
Oh and did I mention that I really, really like my .308.

Yep seen a buck shot square in the front shoulder wit a 243 and deer just ran away never to be seen again....Now if that was 30-06 it would of blown off both front shoulders and the deer would be trying to run with just 2 feet!!!!
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:49 AM
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if you were shooting a 85 tsx and hit the deer in the front shoulder it would be dead where it stood. Not using proper bullets and placeing them correctly is not the guns fault. I have seen a deer shot in the lungs with a .375 ultra mag run off and found 500 plus yards away. it is 2012 not 1956 any more if people would use properly constucted projectiles and shoot more than 10 times a year they would not see such issues. I have shot pdogs with my 308 that have crawled back in their hole i must be under guned. placement,construction, headstamp is how it goes for some i would just stick to fishing the way it sounds here.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:08 PM
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Could it be that the .243 was fast enough and had a small enough (bullet) projectile, that when the deer was
hit in the lungs, that the bullets passed clean through without expanding ?
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:53 PM
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if you were shooting a 85 tsx and hit the deer in the front shoulder it would be dead where it stood. Not using proper bullets and placeing them correctly is not the guns fault. I have seen a deer shot in the lungs with a .375 ultra mag run off and found 500 plus yards away. it is 2012 not 1956 any more if people would use properly constucted projectiles and shoot more than 10 times a year they would not see such issues. I have shot pdogs with my 308 that have crawled back in their hole i must be under guned. placement,construction, headstamp is how it goes for some i would just stick to fishing the way it sounds here.

Maybe you just blew a leg off the prarie dog!!!!!Did you stick your head in the hole to find out?????
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