Pebble mine Alaska

Originally Posted by rbsangler

You are wrong. Truth is, prosperous economies across the globe have the cleanest water and air. Check out Mexico City sometime, but not through the lens of PBS documentary filmmakers, dirty doesn't begin to describe that environment, and I doubt that you would want to eat any fish caught from around there. I faithfully believe in the strength of our country, but it is a concern to witness our strength diminished by "what ifs" and " it mights". No great successes ever occurred without courage, ingenuity, and risktaking, check out Trump, Gates, Buffet and Zuckerburg.

Truth is China is the prosperous mega star and they have CLEAN air and water? Like I said, anything for a buck. Your kind is the reason we have massive air and water problems. That will be your legacy.

[ChuckD]

By coincidence, this post came up yesterday about Alaska and I saw the news last night about one of the world's largest copper, nickel and platinum reserves discovered in Ely, MN.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/0...mine-near-ely/

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/0...ng-homeowners/

[eriksat1]

Here is a thought for everyone against oil drilling, mining, etc. Stop driving, stop using petroleum fuel, stop using electricity.

[FuzzzyIL]

Originally Posted by rbsangler

You are wrong. Truth is, prosperous economies across the globe have the cleanest water and air. Check out Mexico City sometime, but not through the lens of PBS documentary filmmakers, dirty doesn't begin to describe that environment, and I doubt that you would want to eat any fish caught from around there. I faithfully believe in the strength of our country, but it is a concern to witness our strength diminished by "what ifs" and " it mights". No great successes ever occurred without courage, ingenuity, and risktaking, check out Trump, Gates, Buffet and Zuckerburg.

Zuckerburg - stole the idea for Facebook
Gates - stole MS-DOS
Trump - fronted with his daddy's money and contacts
Buffet - modern day scorndrel

[vteye]

rbsangler - Problem is "if" they release tailings water into salmon rich waters its gone an will not come back with a band aid cleaning.
Do we really want clean air and water like in China?
Eriksat - this is a copper, minerial mine, not a oil/natural gas operation.

I realize this is WC and not salmon central but Bristol Bay is worth
preserving. I truly hope "you" an families get to experience it.

Originally Posted by Great idea

Another "real" outdoorsman who will allow anything for a buck!

Another personal attack by someone who isn't capable of discussing the facts and is incapable of understanding the idea that there are different opinions on issues.

There are risks involved with maintaining our lifestyles.

The word hypocrite comes to mind when I read about guys living in climate controlled houses driving 4 WD trucks pulling fishing boats with 150 HP motors so they can catch a few pounds of walleye on the weekend, all the while whining about a new mine or oil well 3,000 miles away.

Overall, the air and water in this country are cleaner today than they've been in the past 100 years. There have been and will be accidents; its one of the risks we've collectively accepted to live the way we do.

[eriksat1]

Originally Posted by vteye

rbsangler - Problem is "if" they release tailings water into salmon rich waters its gone an will not come back with a band aid cleaning.
Do we really want clean air and water like in China?
Eriksat - this is a copper, minerial mine, not a oil/natural gas operation.

I realize this is WC and not salmon central but Bristol Bay is worth
preserving. I truly hope "you" an families get to experience it.

Copper is used in almost all electronics and wiring. If you don't like copper and want to live in a cave with candle light great. It really doesn't matter where they want a mine the do gooders have some reason not to want it. We have the same stuff going on in WI from the Ladysmith mine.

[rbsangler]

Originally Posted by Yer right

Truth is China is the prosperous mega star and they have CLEAN air and water? Like I said, anything for a buck. Your kind is the reason we have massive air and water problems. That will be your legacy.

If that is all that anyone can take away from my point, I am through with them. they cannot be reached, it's over for them, they have made up their mind. The idea that we have "massive" air and water problems is simply not factual.....at all, but believe as you choose.

[rbsangler]

Originally Posted by Yer right

Truth is China is the prosperous mega star and they have CLEAN air and water? Like I said, anything for a buck. Your kind is the reason we have massive air and water problems. That will be your legacy.

As i pondered your response, I would think, and it would be my opinion that......your legacy will be cowardice, indecision, and acceptance of whatever a PBS documentary filmmaker influences you to think. MY legacy will involve Thought, bravery, confidence, more thought, courage and common sense.

Originally Posted by rbsangler

As i pondered your response, I would think, and it would be my opinion that......your legacy will be cowardice, indecision, and acceptance of whatever a PBS documentary filmmaker influences you to think. MY legacy will involve Thought, bravery, confidence, more thought, courage and common sense.

Another legend in his own mind, dream on!