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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
Lowe Lover,
Just a comment on your post. The post was yanked (from what I am told) because it went way off topic. We are not anti anything at Walleye Central, but we do have to maintain a site that EVERYONE can enjoy, that is life. As is stated in the site rules, religion is not a topic we want discussed along with a lot of other things. Religion and politics seem to bring out the best and worst in people and therefore are not tolerated as this is a FISHING site. There are many forums on the net where people can go to discuss virtually anything. Your participation and registration is highly appreciated and is the reason I have taken the time to give you some feedback on your post. All of the users of this site are invaluable to it surviving and we greatly appreciate your participation, we just want to keep it somewhat civil and that usually means we have to enforce some rules that people won't like, but understand. We had lenghty discussions with Dennis yesterday regarding his post and he was told why it was gone. He was very polite and understood why it was done. Thanks again for understanding, |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
"Whether the duty would result in higher outboard engine prices for consumers remains to be seen."
No - it doesn't. Thi suit is now, and always has been, about artificially raising prices across the board in the absence of increased demand. I'm embarassed for Mercury. |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
>Capt. Merc,
> >If you happen to have saved your reply or if it is not too >much trouble, could you email it to me at dskurulsky@yahoo? >Inquisitive minds still would like to know, even if we have >different views on the subject. Unfortunately I did not keep a copy of my post and the wording just wouldn’t seem as good the second time around without the full threat to place it in context. Here's to a good new year! |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
>Capt. Merc,
> >If you happen to have saved your reply or if it is not too >much trouble, could you email it to me at dskurulsky@yahoo? >Inquisitive minds still would like to know, even if we have >different views on the subject. Unfortunately I did not keep a copy of my post and the wording just wouldn’t seem as good the second time around without the full threat to place it in context. Here's to a good new year! |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
Qualifying statement; I am not taking a position on one side or the other. Supertroller, your definition of dumping is flawed. The basics of dumping take into consideration two major factors; 1) The value of one countries curremcy to the other 2) What is the company selling the product for in their own country. Taking into account the home (Japan) selling price and then using the currency comparison to calculate the equivalent price in the non home country (USA)you have a rudimentary non dumping price defined for the non home market. Now, that said, understand I am oversimplifying a very complicated process but trying to make the point that dumping is not just selling under the cost of manufacturing as you have intimated.
As a self employed business guy I have been on both ends of this issue. As an independent sales rep I have lost significant business because the Jpanese company I represented was determined to be dumping and as a reuslt we raised our prices to a non dumping level so the dumping duties woud be lifted. I also import and sell product from Italy, Mexico and China. I have to in order to compete. It is a global economy that I have to compete in and my business has to be fluid and dynamic to survive. |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
why did merc file suit when they are the ones with the contract with yamaha to supple merc with powerheads
rebs |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
Not taking any sides on this......But I do wonder if someone can tell me of ANY North American industry that has done well in the long term after it received protection from it's Government???
The American steel industry did and failed, The American Textile industry did and failed. My point to this is, we are (like it or not) in a World economy. England and other European countries at one time tried to protect their non-efficient industries with Tariffs and you can see what it did to there currency / economy. The Japanese motor companies may have "dumped" motors in America, but there also must be willing buyers for all that "dumping". The sooner American companies understand that products built and designed with Quality, Reliability, Innovation and Manufacturing efficency offer the best value to the consumer and will not need to price protected in todays Global economy. Mercury should use this "very short" opportunity to catch up and move their R&D, Quality, Reliability to set the "World Class Standard". If they set the World class standard in their outboard motors, they will never have to worry about "dumping". If not, due to finacial pressures, they'll be forced to move manufacturing off shore regardless of the dumping protections they enjoyed. "In a global capitalistic economy, Government Protection of an Industry is only a short term fix. In the longer term, it usually will costs more jobs that it was orginally intended to save" |
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
Ok Dennis, lets try this again!Hopefully it stays! As a supplier to Merc and a very fond user of their products for over 30 years I see first hand many of the issues you guys are discussing, but this is more about a company surviving in a global economy because the citizens of this country want want and want more! Merc is not the only one but rather maybe a quality one that is looking for a solution. There are many more choices out there today, just look at the automobile market, How long ago was it that there were only 3 suppliers to choose from? And god have you looked at the price of a new vehicle lately?
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Talking to a lot of potential outboard motor buyers, many say they will be willing to spend more to purchase a Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, etc. Why is that? I think it's because they think they are better motors. Mercury simply has a reputation for poor quality.
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RE: Mercury wins decision in trade dispute
if only they put as much money into R&D as they do adverising they wouldn't have needed those so called criminals at yamaha to build their powerheads for them and they wouldn't be whining about yamaha raising the price on them.
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