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Old 12-30-2015, 01:20 PM
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Default You Asked For It...Let's Talk 30-06 or 308

Another fun thread to pass the time until the vast majority of we here on WC get back to fishing. Yes some ice fish I know. Anyway, my last thread about a do it all cartridge/rifle combo has had several hits for those who can't help but talk 30-06 and 308. And sure I understand it. Great cartridges with proven track records of success. So let's talk about those two great cartridges and their platforms that you own or like and why. Myself I am the owner of four 30-06's, three bolt action and one semi-auto. I also own two 308's, both bolt actions. (Yes, I'm a bolt action fan) Depending on barrel length and bullet selection performance wise there is very little difference between the two headstamps so my selection of which one is based on the platform being used. Light and compact, I use the 308. Where longer distance may be needed I opt for the 06 with the longer tubes. My 18 1/2 inch semi-auto 06 has been pretty much a safe queen that I take to the range every year or two just to say I shot it. My favorite 30-06 is a Winchester Model 70 with a 24 inch barrel that spits Speer 150 grain boattails at 2925fps. Super accurate. My favorite 308 is a Remington Model 7 with a 20 inch barrel. Very light and pretty accurate shooting Nosler/Winchester CT 150 grain pills at 2750fps. So let's hear about your 308's and 30-06's!
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:26 PM
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Well I like my 270 better!!!!! LOL!!! I mean the late great Jack O'Conner can't be wrong! Sorry guys, just couldn't help it. May as well be the first to hijack my own thread...
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:37 PM
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I can't understand why you would want to use either of those cartridges when 22 rimfire ammunition is much less expensive and will kill any big game animal in North America with a headshot.
Plus it says on the box of the 22 rimfire ammunition that it is dangerous up to 1 1/2 miles. So if you can figure the right elevation and windage out you have the ultimate big game rifle for any animal in North America out to 1 1/2 miles. I myself prefer an over under the top barrel being 22 rimfire and the bottom being .50 caliber. I use the top barrel for big game animals and the bottom barrel for squirrels and blackbirds
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:58 PM
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30-06 all day long! I believe the loading books say a .308 can be loaded to ALMOST 30-06 ballistics, key word being ALMOST!
CCI 200, 54 gr. IMR 4064, 150 gr HSP, will do the trick. (1961 Speer loading manual)
Lets see: 30-06---7400 carbine, (2) 700 ADL carbines, 700 BDL carbine, Winchester M70 Mannlicher carbine, 700 ADL rifle, and 700 BDL rifle.

.308---(2) 660 Remingtons, and a MI-A.
I like shooting both calibers, and both are accurate, but when it comes to killin deer, I prefer the 06!

I'll add this; my favorite deer gun is neither caliber!!!!
My 660 in 6.5 Rem. Mag. has treated me well, short, light, accurate, ballistics of a .270 W/129 gr. HSP, and puts them tick toters down quite easily. Also, I like the way it looks!

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100 feet/second difference is insignificant. For any bullet weighing less than 180 grains the 308 may have an accuracy advantage, but only in custom-barreled rifles. Over 180 grains, the 30-06 has an advantage.
It's not important.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:33 AM
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Well Sport, since you wanted to discuss 30.06 or 308, and then violate your own topic so readily with the preferred 270 (lol....) thought I would share my latest experiment, that I'm starting to like a great deal.

Savage 250-3000 AI, or 250 AI for short.

I'm really starting to like this little experiment I've got going, and might have to start another with a little different gun configuration.

I had a Ruger 77 with a throat eroded 22-250. Well, even us lefties can buy a 22-250 - so when I re-barreled it I figured it would be a good time to try a 250 AI with a 26" Shilen heavy barrel, 10" twist to accommodate the Berger 117 gr vld, as well as some lighter varmit loads.

I re-sized 22-250 brass and fire formed to 250 AI, and shot some 115-0120 grain bullets so far. Decided I wanted to carry it during deer hunting, so load development stopped with the heavier bullets, the lighter bullets are still on the shelf. Groups a @ 5/8 inch at 200 yards. I'm thinking I like the heavy pipes for tight groups.

Already thinking about a more hunting friendly weight gun to build another 250 AI, maybe a 16" varmit weight barrel setup light for under 300 yard field shooting. I just don't know how light I can get the gun by going shorter on the pipe instead of thinner on the pipe.

And since this thread is about 308 or 30.06 - I like my 30.06 AI just fine. The AI does not really do much for a 30.06 - but at least it's a little different.
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The difference in the two is marginal, noticeable on a chronograph but not to the deer, both will effectively kill any hoofed animal in North America with good shots. When it comes to two cartridges projecting the same bullets one must consider the SA vs LA.
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Agree on the short vs long action comment, even though I have no interest in either caliber.

I worry more about the bore than the diameter of the barrel
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:21 PM
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The two might as well be one since ballistically they're so close that it doesn't matter. I have 3 30/06, a M1 Garand, a P64 M70 and a Kimber M84L. In 308 I have a FN A3G, SCAR 17, Win M70 Featherwieght stainless, Remington XP100R and a CMMG MK3. I like the 308 as it's easy to reload and accurate. My FN A3G shoots better than I even want to say but the FN SCAR17 is by far my favorite, this gun shoots great and works like a champ.

I never cared for the 30/06, even though it's a great round, just because it's to "to normal", I prefer something that not everyone else has. I got 9600 rounds of '06 ammo through the CMP so I figured I would pick up an M1 Garand to shoot it up. The Kimber I got because I wanted one of the stainless select with the walnut stock and the only one I could find was a '06 and knowing that it's a great round I picked it up.

Bottom line is pick either one (or 270, 280, 7mm, 300 mag, etc) and you'll be fine.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:30 AM
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Well I like my 270 better!!!!! LOL!!! I mean the late great Jack O'Conner can't be wrong! http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums...lies/rotfl.gif Sorry guys, just couldn't help it. May as well be the first to hijack my own thread... http://www.walleyecentral.com/forums...lies/smile.gif
X2 on the .270

Between the .308 and 30-06 is like comparing the 300 win mag to the 30-06.
300 win mag better than 06, 06 better than .308. .270 better than them all
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