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Old 03-17-2017, 10:59 AM
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I run a 619FS with Yamaha 225, 5.5" manual jack plate and kicker. My boat came with a 21p Tempest, dealer exchanged with 19p Tempest after test run.

I tried a lot of props last year at various motor heights. 19p Tempest, 19p Rev4, 20p and 20.5p Bravo FS, 20p Saltwater, 21p Pro Series. From running different props all of 2016 I noticed every prop performs a little differently. The Tempest lifts the bow a lot, the Bravo lifts the whole boat, the Pro Series does a little of both. If you're running rough water a lot you will prefer the Bravo over the Tempest as it controls the bow better. If you're not running much rough water you might prefer the Tempest or another 3 blade.

As for RPM's, the 19P Tempest spun the most RPM's, the 19p Rev4 and 20.5p Bravo the fewest. The 20p Bravo FS spun slightly less than the 19P Tempest but the jack plate could have been raised more.

As for speed, the only way I see the 619FS hull reaching 60mph is with a large pitch prop, lower than ideal RPMs and poor hole shot, or the 225 flashed to 250 or 300HP. From my experience it is a 54-57mph boat with a kicker, 50 gallons of fuel and loaded for fishing. If speed is all you're after there are other boats with much higher HP capacity! The boat fishes very nice.

As for my prop choice? I own the 19p Tempest, 20P Bravo FS and the 21p Pro Series props. I haven't settled on any prop yet as I need more time on the water with the 21p Pro Series. I would like to try a 20p Bravo LT sometime this year to see if the long tube provides more bow lift than the FS. My hunch is I will run the 21p Pro Series the most. It has the largest pitch of all the props I tried and the smallest diameter. It had the highest slip % in the calculator but ran very nice with the Yamaha. It is my fastest prop. The 20p Bravo is 2nd fastest (1mph less).

I think a 20p or 20.5p Bravo FS or LT would be a great all-around prop to try on the Verado and 619FS. It would provide good hole shot, good bow control, good boat lift and good speed in the mid 50's. I think anything over a 21p Bravo would be too much prop for that boat and motor.

Good luck and have fun with your new rig. I learned a lot about props in one summer!
Awesome info Dusty, which prop gave you the best holeshot on that Yammi?
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:58 AM
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I run a 619FS with Yamaha 225, 5.5" manual jack plate and kicker. My boat came with a 21p Tempest, dealer exchanged with 19p Tempest after test run.

I tried a lot of props last year at various motor heights. 19p Tempest, 19p Rev4, 20p and 20.5p Bravo FS, 20p Saltwater, 21p Pro Series. From running different props all of 2016 I noticed every prop performs a little differently. The Tempest lifts the bow a lot, the Bravo lifts the whole boat, the Pro Series does a little of both. If you're running rough water a lot you will prefer the Bravo over the Tempest as it controls the bow better. If you're not running much rough water you might prefer the Tempest or another 3 blade.

As for RPM's, the 19P Tempest spun the most RPM's, the 19p Rev4 and 20.5p Bravo the fewest. The 20p Bravo FS spun slightly less than the 19P Tempest but the jack plate could have been raised more.

As for speed, the only way I see the 619FS hull reaching 60mph is with a large pitch prop, lower than ideal RPMs and poor hole shot, or the 225 flashed to 250 or 300HP. From my experience it is a 54-57mph boat with a kicker, 50 gallons of fuel and loaded for fishing. If speed is all you're after there are other boats with much higher HP capacity! The boat fishes very nice.

As for my prop choice? I own the 19p Tempest, 20P Bravo FS and the 21p Pro Series props. I haven't settled on any prop yet as I need more time on the water with the 21p Pro Series. I would like to try a 20p Bravo LT sometime this year to see if the long tube provides more bow lift than the FS. My hunch is I will run the 21p Pro Series the most. It has the largest pitch of all the props I tried and the smallest diameter. It had the highest slip % in the calculator but ran very nice with the Yamaha. It is my fastest prop. The 20p Bravo is 2nd fastest (1mph less).

I think a 20p or 20.5p Bravo FS or LT would be a great all-around prop to try on the Verado and 619FS. It would provide good hole shot, good bow control, good boat lift and good speed in the mid 50's. I think anything over a 21p Bravo would be too much prop for that boat and motor.

Good luck and have fun with your new rig. I learned a lot about props in one summer!
Thanks for the input Dustin. You know I was originally going with the Yamaha but got talked into the Mercury. Get power steering and electronic throttle for the same price. Figure I couldn't go wrong with either. Would love it if my dealership would allow me to exchange props to try. As it is, I will probably buy a spare at some point so I may end up with a 3 and a 4 blade.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:34 PM
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Awesome info Dusty, which prop gave you the best holeshot on that Yammi?
Probably the 21p Pro Series, but I didn't start running that prop until last November. I would suggest using the Tempest as a baseline and then pick up a few different props to try. Your results could end up quite a bit different than mine. I would imagine the G2 and Optimax prop choices and performance results are different as well.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:36 PM
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Just spoke to Scott Reichow. He recommends a Bravo 1 FS with the 23 in. pitch. 22 if it had a kicker. Now whether Ranger will do this, I don't know. I asked the dealer to call them.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:55 PM
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Just curious, was there any mention of the Bravo LT? That would be great if it'll spin that 22!
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:00 AM
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Just curious, was there any mention of the Bravo LT? That would be great if it'll spin that 22!
I asked about the LT. Scott says it is designed with more lift and is for heavier (longer?) boats than mine. He didn't say not to use it but felt the FS was better suited to my boat.
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:05 AM
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Is there anyone out there with an FS 619 and Verado 225 that has either of the Bravo 1 series props? Certainly don't want to over prop my boat.
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Old 03-23-2017, 06:48 AM
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X2. Not even a question.
X3...No doubt.

I run a 14 2050 Reata LS with a 250 Pro XS on an 8" Hydraulic Jackplate with a kicker..4 batteries...lots of gear. Not the exact boat, but not that far off either. I've turned 64.1 gps as a best speed, light on gas, downwind, with moderate chop. The prop I run is a 24P Bravo I FS. Your boat will like the prop, especially with a jack plate. The Bravos like to be run high and will let you keep your RPMs up. If you go to the Bravo I page(s) for merc it will recommend you pitch up 1" from a Tempest +. My hole shot, is not the best, but I'm fine with that. I'd rather have the top end than a blazing hole shot. I turn 5800 rpm in the summer months and push close to 6000 rpm in the spring and fall when temps are down. I run my Jackplate quite high...do not over trim to get a big rooster tail...keep your rooster tail low. Once you get dialed in you can play wit your trim at speed and observe the speed scrub off as you under or over trim.


The Bravo I FS has four vent holes and a longer shaft housing/exhaust tube than the XS. This is the prop you should try, in my opinion.

Bravo I FS
http://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-cont...vo-I-FS_NC.pdf



The Bravo I LT (Long Tube...I believe) is designed specifically for big multi species rigs with a lot of batteries and gear. The longer shaft/exhaust housing accompanied by the flared end of the shaft housing provides more lift to get your entire hull to lift higher as well as carry the nose of battery forward hulls better. (EDIT: I previously recommended this prop for you....I thought you were running a 621, not 619)

Bravo I LT
http://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-cont...I_LT_SS_LR.pdf

Extra Credit: If you run a light hull (almost no one on this forum) with a tall wheel (Props with a lot of pitch) this is your huckleberry. These props have 8 vent holes for hole shot preservation of Bass Boats with big HP.

Bravo I XS
http://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-cont...I_XS_SS_NC.pdf

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Old 03-23-2017, 07:04 AM
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I run a 619FS with Yamaha 225, 5.5" manual jack plate and kicker. My boat came with a 21p Tempest, dealer exchanged with 19p Tempest after test run.

I tried a lot of props last year at various motor heights. 19p Tempest, 19p Rev4, 20p and 20.5p Bravo FS, 20p Saltwater, 21p Pro Series. From running different props all of 2016 I noticed every prop performs a little differently. The Tempest lifts the bow a lot, the Bravo lifts the whole boat, the Pro Series does a little of both. If you're running rough water a lot you will prefer the Bravo over the Tempest as it controls the bow better. If you're not running much rough water you might prefer the Tempest or another 3 blade.

As for RPM's, the 19P Tempest spun the most RPM's, the 19p Rev4 and 20.5p Bravo the fewest. The 20p Bravo FS spun slightly less than the 19P Tempest but the jack plate could have been raised more.

As for speed, the only way I see the 619FS hull reaching 60mph is with a large pitch prop, lower than ideal RPMs and poor hole shot, or the 225 flashed to 250 or 300HP. From my experience it is a 54-57mph boat with a kicker, 50 gallons of fuel and loaded for fishing. If speed is all you're after there are other boats with much higher HP capacity! The boat fishes very nice.

As for my prop choice? I own the 19p Tempest, 20P Bravo FS and the 21p Pro Series props. I haven't settled on any prop yet as I need more time on the water with the 21p Pro Series. I would like to try a 20p Bravo LT sometime this year to see if the long tube provides more bow lift than the FS. My hunch is I will run the 21p Pro Series the most. It has the largest pitch of all the props I tried and the smallest diameter. It had the highest slip % in the calculator but ran very nice with the Yamaha. It is my fastest prop. The 20p Bravo is 2nd fastest (1mph less).

I think a 20p or 20.5p Bravo FS or LT would be a great all-around prop to try on the Verado and 619FS. It would provide good hole shot, good bow control, good boat lift and good speed in the mid 50's. I think anything over a 21p Bravo would be too much prop for that boat and motor.

Good luck and have fun with your new rig. I learned a lot about props in one summer!

Good stuff here, Dusty. You'd benefit from a hydraulic jack plate, but only for a 1-2 mph gain...meh.

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X3...No doubt.

I run a 14 2050 Reata LS with a 250 Pro XS on an 8" Hydraulic Jackplate with a kicker..4 batteries...lots of gear. Not the exact boat, but not that far off either. I've turned 64.1 gps as a best speed, light on gas, downwind, with moderate chop. The prop I run is a 24P Bravo I FS. Your boat will like the prop, especially with a jack plate. The Bravos like to be run high and will let you keep your RPMs up. If you go to the Bravo I page(s) for merc it will recommend you pitch up 1" from a Tempest +. My hole shot, is not the best, but I'm fine with that. I'd rather have the top end than a blazing hole shot. I turn 5800 rpm in the summer months and push close to 6000 rpm in the spring and fall when temps are down. I run my Jackplate quite high...do not over trim to get a big rooster tail...keep your rooster tail low. Once you get dialed in you can play wit your trim at speed and observe the speed scrub off as you under or over trim.


The Bravo I FS has four vent holes and a longer shaft housing/exhaust tube than the XS. This is the prop you should try, in my opinion.

Bravo I FS
http://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-cont...vo-I-FS_NC.pdf



The Bravo I LT (Long Tube...I believe) is designed specifically for big multi species rigs with a lot of batteries and gear. The longer shaft/exhaust housing accompanied by the flared end of the shaft housing provides more lift to get your entire hull to lift higher as well as carry the nose of battery forward hulls better. (EDIT: I previously recommended this prop for you....I thought you were running a 621, not 619)

Bravo I LT
http://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-cont...I_LT_SS_LR.pdf

Extra Credit: If you run a light hull (almost no one on this forum) with a tall wheel (Props with a lot of pitch) this is your huckleberry. These props have 8 vent holes for hole shot preservation of Bass Boats with big HP.

Bravo I XS
http://www.mercuryracing.com/wp-cont...I_XS_SS_NC.pdf
Sam,

Thanks! This is a ton of info to look at. Let me get a little clarification.

Yes, I am focusing on the FS. I asked Scott about the LT and he said he did not recommend it for my boat. Says the LT has more lift for longer/heavier boats.

Can you estimate your time-to-plan? I would figure anything under 6 seconds as being acceptable.

On a Verado, all of the vents should be closed since it is a 4 stroke, correct?

As far as using a hydraulic jp, what is the sequence for getting up on plane? Trim down, jp lowest setting? Then what? I'm used to playing around with the trim to get best speed but not sure how to use the jp at the same time.
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