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Did you have a great time on your trip? If so what other people pay should be of little consequence and diminish that enjoyment. Lodge owners (of which I am one) cut deals ALL the time for many different reasons. First off is dynamic or variable pricing that many lodge owners employ as part of their business model. Just like the airlines, or hotels the further out you book the better price you get. It is also based on occupancy load. Once load hits a certain percentage rates go up. The closer we get to an open week potentially the price drops. We need to keep buts in beds. That simple. That could mean giving great deals to people on the fence, or families, or people down on their luck. Or going the other way with up-charges for people that demand private bedrooms or other items. Its a business. Do you sit down in your airplane seat and ask the guy next to you how much they paid? And if they paid a lot less get off the plane and not travel? Of course not. Why would you do the same at a lodge. You were having a great time at that lodge until you found out you paid more than another customer? Business 101. |
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Not so
What we're talking about here is different pricing being applied specifically for the same services at the same booking time for two different GROUPS OF PEOPLE.
As a Canadian I can enjoy a 30% discount for the same trip, booked on the same day. We're not talking about last minute deals or seasonal discounts here. A lodge owner who offers a break to someone they know is suffering a financial hardship or to a friend of a friend is a nice guy and not at all relevant here. This is discrimination pure and simple. |
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First off... I think it is strange that you would do that. Basically called an "unnamed" resort... with no interest in going, in order to try to see if you can get 30% off? Secondly, as a resort owner, I give discounts for lots of reasons. I usually give a large discount for people who are from my home town. I also like to give repeat guests a bit of a break. This one really might upset some... I've been known to completely donate trips to organizations that I like. Especially organizations that promote fishing with children. My point in even responding to this is that comparing a resort to a gas station is silly. It doesn't work that way. Each group comes with different circumstances. Each person costs me a different amount of money when they are there. Filling up a gas tank is exactly the same... every time. They can set their margins and just enjoy it. As far as you promoting Quebec goes... that is perfectly fine. I'm sure Quebec has many wonderful lakes and fisheries. I don't care for the law that says you can't continue to practice catch and release once you have your limit though. (just my opinion). ..... fuel/fire... go |
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He could simply be trying to build his Canadian business. A guest has a good time, got a discount, tells others about the resort... ideally it can snowball. |
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I don't know Canadian discrimination laws. In the US variable pricing is fine as long as it is not based on a "protected category" such as race, religion, etc.
So if you want to lower your prices because you have a lot of vacant space to fill, that;s fine. Or to raise prices because there is a lot of demand, that too is fine. Of course, you should have and keep documentation showing what you did and why you did it. But if you charge a higher rate to Canadians than Americans because of their citizenship or because you want to help your fellow countryman you likely will have violated a number of local, state, and federal anti-discrimination laws. |
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It's when you have a scenario that x group pays x and y group pays y that brings out the SJW in me. Should resort owners be allowed to charge more for certain races because they think they have more money? Less for others because they might have had less opportunity? By the way, most zones in Quebec allow 8 walleye...so you can keep 7, keep fishing and still have more walleye than most zones in Ontario I'll save you the trouble of pointing out that most of Quebec does have a dumb law that makes us keep skin on the whole fillet guaranteeing slimy tasting walleye... |
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One more thing
To have your website indicate "all prices in USD", and then not indicate that all prices are in USD unless you're Canadian (if that's policy) is more than a little dishonest/shady.
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Ontario's Human Rights Law
Part I – Freedom from discrimination
The Code protects people from discrimination in specific situations. Under the Code, you have the right to be free from discrimination in five parts of society – called social areas – based on one or more grounds. The five social areas are: employment, housing, services, unions and vocational associations and contracts. Discrimination based on 17 different personal attributes – called grounds – is against the law under the Code. The grounds are: citizenship, race, place of origin, ethnic origin, colour, ancestry, disability, age, creed, sex/pregnancy, family status, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, receipt of public assistance (in housing) and record of offences (in employment). http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/ontario-human-rights-code I think a resort would be a "service" part of society and therefore subject to the law and that being an American would be covered under the "citizenship" and/or "place of origin" protected personal attributes in Ontario. So, don't charge Americans more than Canadians. |
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Hard to see how a license could be a service?
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