Do Guides pressure fish?

Ok,since we're on guides now.Do you think they pressure fish? Do you think they bring pressure to your local lake or fav. lake? Ex: Cave Run! Just wonder what everyone else thinks.Kevin Selders

[Da Bears]

Anybody who casts a lure or drives a boat pressures fish!

[Phish Freak]

Keep pounding these guides and they will leave, and all that
knowledge goes with them. From muskie fishing to saltwater fishing i've learned a ton from guides.
All this thread is gonna do is stir up a hornets nest. :(

[Marc Thorpe]

Kelvin,myself I do beleive some pressure is created.But no more is created by one or two guides than lest say 6 to 12 boats on any given weekend.One thing you must remember is they all dont eat at the same time.So while baits are flying by at fish in a negative mood,it may not impact them at all.

The biggest stress factor fish get is during the battle and removal from the water.
take care
marc

[fishgraf]

and who battles them more then guides?

[Marc Thorpe]

Chuck,you and Mr Clean!

Fishgraf,its also relative to the size of any given body of water.I realize that also.Your situation is unique in many places,But even in ponds you never catch every fish every year.Some never come close to a bait.

I also stress the proper handling of fish during the fight and release of the fish.I know where you are coming from,no need to go there.When unproper handling of fish is observed,maybe showing or setting examples would go much further than critic.Making sure you have the proper release tools availible in the boat,
gaff,cradle,net,hook cutters,long nose pliers,channel locks.Quick and effective methods highly increase survivability.
have a good one
marc

Reason I brought this up,I'd like to know what people think about guides in general.I'm considering getting into guiding soon.No personal attacks please.Just what do you feel about it in general.Size of water does make a difference I'm sure.Webster vs The Ottawa type comparison is an ex. Kevin Selders

[Trophymuskie]

Some do and some don't. What I mean there are a lot of different factors involved here like size of the waters fished as well as the way they are fished.

I myself do not pressure my fish as I move around a lot even tho I fish 1 body of water it is large enough for me not to fish the same areas more then twice a week. Then again we got a guide who fishes an area less then a couple hundread yards in size and an other a few miles stretch. Now since these guys are pressuring fish I tend to fish them areas a lot early in the season and then stay away from them but thank god they are not fulltime guides.

I also believe this allowes me to catch more fish by not pressuring them to much. There are numbers of big fish in all areas so it's only smart to fish it all then just a small area.

I am sure thats the reason WI guides fish a good number of lakes vs just one or two.

BTW the clients on multiple day trips like the different scenery as fishing the same spots day after day gets boring.

Keep releasing them all
Richard Collin
http://www.trophymuskiecharters.com

[tomcat]

Guides better be pressuring fish, or they need to get into a new profession. If a guide raised a big girl for a few days or weeks, then you'd hope he would take you to her to chuck some hair or wood at her. As most people know, i'm not stranger to hiring guides, so when go out w/ them, i expect to either raise and hook that big one or chase her out of that hole. So, yea...i'd hope guides put some pressure on the fish, as we all do. But, as a guide, you need to have the capabilities of putting the least amount of stress on the fish when you hook up, because your customers will be looking to learn from you the proper handeling of muskies. And,i agree w/ Marc, when the fish fish have thier noses stuck in the weeds, the passing lures "might" have some conditioning effect, but not any real pressure. happy easter.
keep it reel
tomcat

[ToddM]

Guides know the water well but are just a small number of musky fisherman total. They make up a small portion when it comes to pressure. They may catch more fish with their experience and timne on the water but total hours of pressure they are in the minority for sure.