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Old 09-09-2008, 09:58 AM
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Planning on ordering new Ranger 1860 this winter and want to stick with max HP. Merc Verado 175 has 2.08:1 gear ratio & Suzuki 175 has 2.50:1 gear ratio...can a person actually draw any conclusion about performance?
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:45 AM
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The only conclusion you can draw from gear ratio data is that the optimum props for these two motor will have very different pitches, around 20% different. Gear ratios should be the least of your concerns.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:03 PM
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Planning on ordering new Ranger 1860 this winter and want to stick with max HP. Merc Verado 175 has 2.08:1 gear ratio & Suzuki 175 has 2.50:1 gear ratio...can a person actually draw any conclusion about performance?
I'm running the 175 suzuki on my 2008 1860. VERY happy with its overall performance. Feel free to drop me a line with any questions you may have: jason@jasonhalfenoutdoors.com
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:04 PM
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Planning on ordering new Ranger 1860 this winter and want to stick with max HP. Merc Verado 175 has 2.08:1 gear ratio & Suzuki 175 has 2.50:1 gear ratio...can a person actually draw any conclusion about performance?
No...but the fact that the Verado is super-charged should give some indication as to performance .
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:16 PM
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No...but the fact that the Verado is super-charged should give some indication as to performance .
I see your point but isn't 175 hp a 175hp? super-charged or not? The only thing i can see is the verado should be way less displacement to make the 175hp, which in turn should be lighter?
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:14 PM
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The Verado is about 30 pounds heavier than the Suzuki.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:34 PM
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Default Very happy with the 175 Suzuki on my 1850 Ranger

I've own 2 stroke Mercs before this engine. The Verado has a reputation as a fast outboard but 4 factors influenced my decision.

1 - Sukuki's reputation on reliability (brand)
2 - Questions on Verado's fuel efficiency (sounds like they are improving since 2006)
3 - Fewer moving parts for long term reliability (design)
4 - Ok this will open a can worms but I not a fan of limiting choice as Merc is doing so I voted with my dollars.

Hate to have a counter comment to the TMac as he is well respected and an important site contributor but to his comment “No...But the fact that the Verado is super-charged should give some indication as to performance” one could state

No ... but the fact that the Sukuzi has 70% more displacement should give some indication as to performance

I’d be suprised if there not with 1 MPH top end properly set up.

I'm not disappointed with my hole shot or top end
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:57 PM
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Have you considered a Opti Pro XS 175? They truly are an awesome motor, if you haven't ran one yet, I would drive one then make your decision. the only factor that some guys don't like is the noise.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:08 PM
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The Verado will outperform any other 4 stroke every day of the week. Drive one and you'll buy it.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:17 PM
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You'll have many different opinions based on whatever, but as an expert in 4-stroke irrigation engines (not outboards of course, however some of my customers run as many as 85 engines 1,000+ hours per year each) I would consider the dealer first. If you have both equally available, I'd go with the one that has fewer moving parts...thus the non-supercharged one. One of the most disappointing facts I have to deal with is the fact that GM is discontinuing their 8.1Liter big-block industrial engine. They are going to replace it with a 6.0 liter supercharged powerplant, which in my and my customer's opinions will create more problems and certainly less longvity of the powerlant.

If, however, you are considering replacing the boat+motor on a regular basis (under warranty), then I wouldn't worry about it. Both should do a perfectly fine job of satisfying your needs.

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