22.250

[TAH]

Went to Scheels a little bit ago and tossed it around a bit after reading the comments, and the Opinions also , and checked into the .243 some more. This was the original caliber I wanted and decided to go back to it and look again. Found a "new" Savage for 2012. Its the 12 LRP w/26" barrel in .243. I think I would be more comfortable if I decided to try it out on Deer size game. Like some have posted ethics and responsibility needs to come into play when hunting. It will be in next week and then we will see.

Thanks for the heads up........... again

[Phil T]

22 centerfires are widely used to cull managed deer herds on game farms in Texas. The bullets used, and the placement of said bullets are chosen to expand vioilently in the heart/lung region. When truly properly placed, a 22 centerfire bullet is very effective. But there is no quick shooting at poor angles.

[Dacotah Eye]

My brother-in-law shoots a 22-250 for White Tails and has put many of them down. I Shoot a 220 Swift which is a bit faster and flatter with the same results. I actually use my 220 for the longer shots with a 50 gr Spitzer. I have shot very few deer with the 220 that weren't neck shots and they seem to drop in their tracks. Nice calibers for varmints also. For yotes I use a 55 gr FMJ.

[Wade B AKA: Ruger2506]

Originally Posted by Dacotah Eye

I have shot very few deer with the 220 that weren't neck shots and they seem to drop in their tracks.

Very unethical shot (neck shot). Especially with a small caliber like that. Show the animal some respect and make an ethical shot.

[Dacotah Eye]

Why would this be enethical? They drop like they were hit with a hammer and they are dead. I think it shows more respect for an animal than blowing a hole in it with a large caliber and following it for aome distance while it bleeds out.

[jigstop]

Originally Posted by Dacotah Eye

Why would this be enethical? They drop like they were hit with a hammer and they are dead. I think it shows more respect for an animal than blowing a hole in it with a large caliber and following it for aome distance while it bleeds out.

IMHO neck shots are kind of iffy shots. If you hit the spine it drops on the spot - DONE! But if it doesn't hit the spine often times it's only a superficial wound. Head shots are even more iffy and unethical IMHO. If you hit the brain it's a dead deer on the spot, if you miss the brain often times the deer gets to starve to death because it no longer has a usable mouth. I've seen enough deer with their lower jaws shot off to never want to attempt it myself.

I see no reason why one doesn't just shoot them right through the lungs. It's the largest vital target on a deer and (other than a head shot) wastes the least amount of meat. Even a neck shot wastes more meat than a clean shot through the lungs.

Again IMHO the 22 centerfires are not the best rounds for deer. Yes they will kill them if everything is perfect but a bad angle or something and you end up wounding the deer or causing it to die at a later date. And if you do use a 22 centerfire for deer for GOD'S sake don't use cheap 55gr bullets on them. Buy quality heavilly constructed bullets such as the 60ge Partition or 64gr Winchester Power Point.

[Dacotah Eye]

Doesn't matter much any more. I haven't hunted for about six years now. I used my 220, a 308 and a 270 for about forty years of White Tail hunting and grew to love neck shots. I don't ever remember a White Tail taking two steps after a neck shot and very seldom fired more than one shot during a season. I guess I must have done things right and have always believed that bullet placement means more than what size cannon ya shoot. I had a friend that used a 338 mag and I watched several deer vanish over a hill top or into the trees on three legs because he thought the size of the bullet mattered more than placement.

[Wade B AKA: Ruger2506]

Originally Posted by Dacotah Eye

Why would this be enethical? They drop like they were hit with a hammer and they are dead. I think it shows more respect for an animal than blowing a hole in it with a large caliber and following it for aome distance while it bleeds out.

Neck shots are one of the most unethical shots due to the fact that the spinal column and blood vessels in that region make a small target and are a small percent of the total mass. Plus there are many large muscles in that area that affect the bullet. To much room for error. A skilled person can make it pretty easily but most aren't skilled. And even skilled people make mistakes. So..... That makes it unethical.

[jigstop]

Originally Posted by Dacotah Eye

Doesn't matter much any more. I haven't hunted for about six years now. I used my 220, a 308 and a 270 for about forty years of White Tail hunting and grew to love neck shots. I don't ever remember a White Tail taking two steps after a neck shot and very seldom fired more than one shot during a season. I guess I must have done things right and have always believed that bullet placement means more than what size cannon ya shoot. I had a friend that used a 338 mag and I watched several deer vanish over a hill top or into the trees on three legs because he thought the size of the bullet mattered more than placement.

So if a person is such a great shot that they can hit a 3" wide spine running up the neck why wouldn't they aim for a 10" diameter lung shot and ruin less meat?

[cal74]

Originally Posted by jigstop

Again IMHO the 22 centerfires are not the best rounds for deer. Yes they will kill them if everything is perfect but a bad angle or something and you end up wounding the deer or causing it to die at a later date. And if you do use a 22 centerfire for deer for GOD'S sake don't use cheap 55gr bullets on them. Buy quality heavilly constructed bullets such as the 60ge Partition or 64gr Winchester Power Point.

Couldn't agree more and I would venture to guess that the vast majority of people that are using a .22 caliber of some sorts are using whatever box of ammo was cheapest.