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Old 01-05-2012, 10:43 PM
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Buy a pistol, get a permit, practice at the range. When someone breaks in, nothing beats a shotgun
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:22 AM
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A S&W police issue riot gun, 12 gauge, short barrel, 9 shot loaded with 00 buckshot will do the job.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:59 AM
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Just be sure they get into the house far enough so that they land inside ... or drag "em back in.

Fleeing is still the best option IMHO but plan "B" should be in place.

SD is one of the states that has a "castle" law on the books.

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Old 01-06-2012, 06:30 AM
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Just be sure they get into the house far enough so that they land inside ... or drag "em back in.

Fleeing is still the best option IMHO but plan "B" should be in place.

SD is one of the states that has a "castle" law on the books.

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I guess each state that have "Castle Laws" in effect differ somewhat in determining at what point you (the potential victim) are allowed to utilize "deadly force"! Oklahoma redefined the Castle / Make My Day Law this past Nov 21, 2011 to include business and employees of business!

"Effective today, (11/21/2011) business owners, managers and employees are covered to defend themselves and their workplace through deadly force if needed in the amended Make My Day law. The law originally provided such protection to people in their dwellings or vehicles or engaged in any lawful activity.
Lawmakers wanted to add businesses to the wording of the legislation, leaving no room for interpretation by law enforcement or others.

The law states residents of Oklahoma have a right to expect absolute safety in their homes or businesses. Anyone attempting to unlawfully enter a home or business, or who has already unlawfully entered, can be defended against by the use of physical or deadly force. It is presumed that a person or persons in such unlawful activity intend to use force or violence to obtain their objective upon unlawful entry."


Was talking just yesterday with one of my cousins who also happens to be the DA for the county I reside in about this very subject! The bad guy does not have to be "completely" inside the residence, vehicle or business at all! If they are "attempting" to unlawfully enter and you feel threatened to the point YOU fear for your life or safety, deadly force can be used!


While I have several handguns (yes,,,,,, loaded and ready for use in my home and vehicle), a loaded trusty 20 ga, short barrel pump shotgun is within quick easy reach of the bed 24/7 and #2 shot works extremely well at stopping would be intruders!
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:56 AM
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Gotta love the armchair experts! Might want to take a took at the pattern from a shotgun at short range sometime. It's not very large. And far as dragging someone back in the house - anyone that does that is opening a real can of worms. Castle Doctrine or not you'd better have a good reason to shoot another human or you could be in some deep shinola.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:38 AM
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Armchair expert or not, a quick Google of "Best Home Defense Weapon" might just surprise you with what the weapon of choice is by real experts! One example: (http://www.primermagazine.com/2008/l...r-home-defense)

I'll put the "pattern" of a short barrel shotgun at close range against that of a pistol any day. Couple that with the sheer knock down power, even of #9 shot at close range and there are few (if any) handguns that will come close!

Someone breaking in or attempting to break into MY home is all the reason I need here in OK!!
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All of these comments are fine.
But if the posters keep loaded guns around the house - are they ready to point the gun at another person and pull the trigger with the idea of removing their life.

If not, there should not be loaded guns in the house. Otherwise you just have a false sense of protection.

It is quite different from having a loaded gun and actually taking another persons life.

Remember, it is YOU, the person that pulled the trigger, the person that will live with its consequences for the rest of YOUR life.

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Old 01-06-2012, 07:49 AM
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It's easy to chamber a round in the dark, with a shotgun and if "whoever" stays in your house after hearing a shotgun being charged deserves to be shot since their intentions can't be good. It also gives "friendlies" a chance to call out.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:03 AM
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Smaller shot has the added advantage of limited penetration through walls. At close range, skeet/trap shot (7-1/2, 8 or 9) would create a devastating wound. There is no surgeon that is sufficiently skilled to turn hamburger back into a roast.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:08 AM
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Gotta love the armchair experts! Might want to take a took at the pattern from a shotgun at short range sometime. It's not very large. And far as dragging someone back in the house - anyone that does that is opening a real can of worms. Castle Doctrine or not you'd better have a good reason to shoot another human or you could be in some deep shinola.
Yeah, its only 8x the size of the pin hole 9mm round.

The shotgun is much more effective, not really/only from a lethality standpoint, but also a psychological.

When someone loads a round into the chamber of a shotgun it is loud enough and distinct enough to instill a lot of fear. Also, if you fire the thing it is loud enough to ensure your neighbors hear it, and if you miss chances are that your intruder will not be around long enough for a second chance.

00 buck is certainly lethal, and a shotgun is much more effective as a home defense weapon than a handgun.
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