handy-man special

[Rich B]

So because you own your camp, and if you have good friends come up north of the border and over a day or two or so help paint an outside of a cabin or whatever; that's illegal work ? I would understand if YOU owned a painting company and had been hired to do painting/staining work at the camp, but a friend helping out someone who owns a business as a favor seems harsh to me.

I don't think you're "wrong" as you stated, as you looked into this with the Ontario (or Canadian Gov) but the situation itself just appears wrong.

Is the situation different if a Canadian citizen/friend comes out to your camp and helps paint a cabin or two for free because they are your friend and live north of the border ? If so, would it matter what Province they were a citizen of ?

Interesting.....and by the way, I enjoy reading your fishing reports.

Rich

[GNO]

It works the same way on both sides of the border. Must be a citizen or have a work permit from the country you are going to work. Province to provine is ok, just like working from state to state. Obabikan is just stating the rules as they are wrote. Will you get caught, probably not, but better to know exactly what the law is and make your decision from there.

[Obabikon]

Rich,

I have two older brothers who were raised on the island. I was told by an immigration officer that they're not allowed to even answer a telephone.

The idea is that a company should be using the Canadian work force to fill these jobs. If you wanted a cabin painted, and you didn't want to do it yourself, then hire a Canadian to do it. Same's true for answering phone calls, and work as a carpenter or an electrician is probably even a bigger deal.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2000/03...arter0306.html


Bartering in Canada is legal, however, it's also taxable. So, any value gained must be reported and tax paid. I'm not sure the government hunts people down, but they also want their piece of the action (so to speak).

[Golden Eagle]

Joey Votto didn't have any problem being hired in Cincinnati.

[Shellback]

Originally Posted by GNO

It works the same way on both sides of the border. Must be a citizen or have a work permit from the country you are going to work. Province to provine is ok, just like working from state to state. Obabikan is just stating the rules as they are wrote. Will you get caught, probably not, but better to know exactly what the law is and make your decision from there.

I wish it worked that way on both sides of the border! Unfortunately in the US we have too many people employing illegals.

[fishincrazy]

Originally Posted by Shellback

I wish it worked that way on both sides of the border! Unfortunately in the US we have too many people employing illegals.

You got that right Shell.

FC

Originally Posted by Shellback

I wish it worked that way on both sides of the border! Unfortunately in the US we have too many people employing illegals.

Are you kidding me, if you even mention the word "Work" to the US Border Officials going into the US you will be "Arrested On The Spot"!!!
This happened to my father, he was sent from his employer in Toronto to go to another plant in Carolina to oversee some equipment instal for a week and he made the mistake of telling the border officials he was going there to work. Arrested, strip searched, finger printed and now he requires a waiver to cross the border to the USA.... What a joke, here is an engineer 64yrs. old, no record at all and that happens.
He now has a waiver good for 5 yrs. but each time he crosses to the USA for whatever reason he get the same old strip search, finger printing photo's etc...etc...

Think again about having anything to do at all with working on either side if your not a citizen.

From my personal experience. I drove into Ontario to visit a manufacturing plant that was building some RADAR equipment for the US Government. I assure you that I was working. Spent over two weeks there, in fact. Never was I required to get a work permit and I got paid for my work. The guys at the boarder never said a word about all the tools I was carrying in the tool trailer either and I told them what I would be doing when they asked too. Not a peep. Just a pleasant "Enjoy your stay".

[Terwalleye]

Originally Posted by tooski

Nor did he want me calling or e-mailing re: the offer. I declined. I think the government takes that issue very seriously.

****! And I thought we had Big Brother watching over US.

Hey. I drive a big rig in Canada all the time for a paint supplier to the auto industry. I cross the boarder sometimes 3 days a week. Never had a "work permit". If all this work permit banter were true you'd think I'd have to drop off the trailer after crossing or be in prison already. Typical message board know it alls spewing only enough information to be unreliable and/or dangerous. Obab's take is nonsense because as with many posters it is over the top and not applicable to many many situations. I painted my cottage last year on the north shore of Lake Erie. My wife and her 2 brothers helped me. Nobody went to jail or got deported. Amazing, eh? They even brought their own paint brushes from......shhh......PA.