Smartphones

[Yarhcaz]

For a little perspective...all of samsung's phones as a whole outsold the one Apple phone.
I have an I-phone 4s and love it, it always works, never crashes. Now if I was a power user then the android based phones might make sense, but I, like the VAST majority, am not a power user. I can ask Siri to do pretty much anything and I don't even have to look at the phone. I would tell everyone to try an iphone just for the simplicity factor.
Oh and when buying an iphone you do not need to worry about a new one coming out a week or two later redering yours as outdated or new operating systems coming out one after another.

Originally Posted by SteveJ

Says the man trying to start a battle! Odd statement given that Samsung out sold iPhone 2 to 1 in the last quarter.

Always amazes me that Android users brag about Android phones outselling iPhone when there are about a thousand Android phones competing with iPhone LOL Momo also outsells Power Pro ;-) wow

[legend]

Just got a new iPhone and purchased a waterproof case for it. Required a test dunk before putting the phone in to valdate the warranty. The case is made by Lifeproof.

[SteveJ]

Originally Posted by Yarhcaz

For a little perspective...all of samsung's phones as a whole outsold the one Apple phone.
I have an I-phone 4s and love it, it always works, never crashes. Now if I was a power user then the android based phones might make sense, but I, like the VAST majority, am not a power user. I can ask Siri to do pretty much anything and I don't even have to look at the phone. I would tell everyone to try an iphone just for the simplicity factor.
Oh and when buying an iphone you do not need to worry about a new one coming out a week or two later redering yours as outdated or new operating systems coming out one after another.

The source I read just last week was only comparing the sale of smart phones. The differemce would be more drastic if you counted basic phones for Samsung.

Not sure where the comment about crashing comes into this discussion. I have never had an Android phone crash, nor do I know anyone that has experienced this. I think this is more appropriare in PC operating system debate not in a smart phome discussion.

You ae absolutely that Apple doesn't come out with new phones very often. Not sure how that equates to an Apple advantage. Having just acquired a Samsung Galaxy S III, I am glad that Samsung doeasn't wait year or more to introdue new phones. I wonder if Apple would have kept more of the Smart phone market if they didn't wait so long to release new models.

My wife loves her iPhone. My daugter and feel the same about our Samsung Android smart phones. Interestly, my daugter and I are the power users in the family. In my opinion, Apple's biggest advantage is they control the application market, making developers meet their standards.

Personally, I don't think that Apple has an edge in features or quality in the smart phone market. Competition is great and consumers win in the long run.

[Yarhcaz]

Sorry...all models of Samsung smart phones versus the iphone. Since you have the new GS III lets see how that phone itself does aginst the new iphone that should be out in the next couple of months. I missed the stories of people camping out to get the new GS III.

Ok I will admit crashing is a PC term, but what I meant is when you are forced to restart, reboot, shut off and turn back on your phone to get it to function properly. If you do not know anyone that has had that happen I would guess that you must not know many people.

All that being said Samsung makes a d*mn nice phone, lots of manufactures do. Apple seems to make one that works all the time and is pretty much simple to use. Someone new to smart phones would be hard pressed to find one that is easier to use.
I could not agree more on competition...we all win in the end

Originally Posted by SteveJ

The source I read just last week was only comparing the sale of smart phones. The differemce would be more drastic if you counted basic phones for Samsung.

Not sure where the comment about crashing comes into this discussion. I have never had an Android phone crash, nor do I know anyone that has experienced this. I think this is more appropriare in PC operating system debate not in a smart phome discussion.

You ae absolutely that Apple doesn't come out with new phones very often. Not sure how that equates to an Apple advantage. Having just acquired a Samsung Galaxy S III, I am glad that Samsung doeasn't wait year or more to introdue new phones. I wonder if Apple would have kept more of the Smart phone market if they didn't wait so long to release new models.

My wife loves her iPhone. My daugter and feel the same about our Samsung Android smart phones. Interestly, my daugter and I are the power users in the family. In my opinion, Apple's biggest advantage is they control the application market, making developers meet their standards.

Personally, I don't think that Apple has an edge in features or quality in the smart phone market. Competition is great and consumers win in the long run.

[SteveJ]

Originally Posted by Yarhcaz

Ok I will admit crashing is a PC term, but what I meant is when you are forced to restart, reboot, shut off and turn back on your phone to get it to function properly. If you do not know anyone that has had that happen I would guess that you must not know many people.

WOW - now we are getting personal. I seriously doubt that the number of people I know have anything to do with this debate. If you want to debate the number of people we each know, let's take that one offline. You can PM me if you want. I don't live in a cave, build my own PC's and try to stay on top of phone and PC technology as a hobby. Maybe my research efforts have something to do with my satisfication with what I purchase.

I have heard about applications that are released before they work well. That is the developer's probem and is NOT caused by the operating system or the smart phone manufacturer. Admittedly, some developers don't like to try and keep up with the Android operating changes. It would be eaiser for them if all of the manufacturers and service providers pushed out the latest operating system updates to all smart phone. That won't happen because it would impact the sale of new phones. I believe Apple is now playing the same game with their smart phone operating system. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't they withholding some software functionality from older models?

I am very careful on what applications I load on my phone, as is my daughter. Maybe that't why we don't have any probelms. I will also admit that Apple does a good job of vetting applications to make sure they live up to Apple's standards. However, they apparently have gotten too large to succeed in that, evidenced by the recent horror story on a "corrupted" application getting through their review process.

[Yarhcaz]

I apologize if I came across as demeaning with my not knowing many people as it was not my intent. My intent is it is well known that androids have issues interacting with apps (as you pointed out is not the os) but I contend the constant upgrading of the OS doesn't help)
I was an anti-apple person until my wife bought herself a mac book pro...to say it opened my eyes was an understatement. Anyway enough about phones...lets go fishing!

Originally Posted by SteveJ

WOW - now we are getting personal. I seriously doubt that the number of people I know have anything to do with this debate. If you want to debate the number of people we each know, let's take that one offline. You can PM me if you want. I don't live in a cave, build my own PC's and try to stay on top of phone and PC technology as a hobby. Maybe my research efforts have something to do with my satisfication with what I purchase.

I have heard about applications that are released before they work well. That is the developer's probem and is NOT caused by the operating system or the smart phone manufacturer. Admittedly, some developers don't like to try and keep up with the Android operating changes. It would be eaiser for them if all of the manufacturers and service providers pushed out the latest operating system updates to all smart phone. That won't happen because it would impact the sale of new phones. I believe Apple is now playing the same game with their smart phone operating system. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't they withholding some software functionality from older models?

I am very careful on what applications I load on my phone, as is my daughter. Maybe that't why we don't have any probelms. I will also admit that Apple does a good job of vetting applications to make sure they live up to Apple's standards. However, they apparently have gotten too large to succeed in that, evidenced by the recent horror story on a "corrupted" application getting through their review process.

[mvwalleye]

Siri is worthless on the iPhone. Navigation app. Is not very good either. Camera & user friendliness are unbeatable.

[PackerBacker]

Originally Posted by SteveJ

Not sure where the comment about crashing comes into this discussion. I have never had an Android phone crash, nor do I know anyone that has experienced this. I think this is more appropriare in PC operating system debate not in a smart phome discussion.

Some of the Android apps that I have downloaded lately do crash. You get the option if you want to report the application or just close it. It is a buggy app. Perhaps you would use some other term? Anyways the Android marketplace does not vet their applications well enough. Apple seems to do much better but is not perfect. I would get an IPhone next time just for that reason and that Apple has more apps.

Previous generation Android phones had a lot of problems with just plain locking up. Current generation Android phones seem to have cured this problem.

[SteveJ]

Originally Posted by PackerBacker

Some of the Android apps that I have downloaded lately do crash. You get the option if you want to report the application or just close it. It is a buggy app. Perhaps you would use some other term? Anyways the Android marketplace does not vet their applications well enough. Apple seems to do much better but is not perfect. I would get an IPhone next time just for that reason and that Apple has more apps.

Previous generation Android phones had a lot of problems with just plain locking up. Current generation Android phones seem to have cured this problem.

Maybe I wasn't clear on my thoughts. I believe the issue is with the app developer, not the Android OS. Apple does a better job of vetting apps before they are made available, but they are not perfect.

Between my daughter and myself, we haven't loaded a single app that has been an issue. We do read the user feedback which seems to be a good indicator of the quality of the app. Maybe we are just lucky, but I believe our diligence pays off. We also don't subscribe to the theory that you don't need antivirus/malware applications on PCs, smart phones and tablets if you are careful. All of our devices are protected.

I am not anti Apple. My wife left the choice of phones to me when she got her smart phone and she has an iPhone. I just don't suscribe to the position that if it isn't Apple can't be good.