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03-21-2014 11:51 AM
T lazy H Ranch
sd pheasant huting

I am a local and if you want to come out at this time, X-mas to jan 5th it is a great time to hunt public, because everyone has left and you have a lot of land to yourself and your dog. If you have the drive to strap on your boots and take a little lunch pack with you and really walk deep into some of the larger public areas it is great in late season. Most people are too lazy to do this and cry about how they can not find a place to hunt private--------well I'm here to tell you there is a lot of public land in late season that is not hunted very much and if you do the foot work to locate these areas it is good hunting. Around Howard, SD and North of Huron SD near the glacial lakes area is a good place to start.
10-07-2013 12:19 PM
Gregking Got some more intel for whoever cares. I was eating dinner in platte SD and started talking to some orange fellows. They had their hunting lodge on their caps and such. Anyway I asked and they said they had to buy birds because their population is down. Said they have 200 hunters coming in this season with nothing to shoot.
They see very few adults but see quite a few young ones (about the size of a softball). They don't think they will make it through the winter.

Hope this helps
10-07-2013 08:05 AM
reddog
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its %64 from last year, not %54. down %76 from the 10 year average.

From what I've been seeing these numbers are even conservative...

http://gfp.sd.gov/hunting/small-game...t-outlook.aspx



From what I seen hunting the Rez and scouting for 4days, it's very conservative.
09-21-2013 06:12 PM
Ned
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Within reason I think gauge/shot/choke selection for pheasants is as much about what you have confidence in. My dad always shot federal 6's and so that is what usually shoot. Much of that may have been due to the fact that where we hunt we would traditionally find quail as well.

On a side note, the only scientific study I have ever seen on shot size and effectiveness on birds was done by Tom Roster. He studied non-toxic shot and for pheasants he recommended steel 2's or 3's for pheasants in IC (20-30 yards) or MOD (30-50 yards) chokes. In hevi-shot he recommended #4's. In general he found fewer/larger pellets put more pellets in the vitals than more/smaller pellets (I think he did his testing on dead birds at ranges of 20-50 yards). Based on his data, one could infer that lead 4 shot would be better as compared to 6's. Now, like I mentioned I don't necessarily follow this as I rarely shot lead 4's for pheasants, but I found the study interesting.

Anyway thanks for everyone who has offered information and advice. I am still trying to figure out what I am going to do and so if anybody has any thoughts I am all ears.

NVM

Never heard of this study, but i shoot 4's exclusively.
09-20-2013 08:50 PM
NVM Within reason I think gauge/shot/choke selection for pheasants is as much about what you have confidence in. My dad always shot federal 6's and so that is what usually shoot. Much of that may have been due to the fact that where we hunt we would traditionally find quail as well.

On a side note, the only scientific study I have ever seen on shot size and effectiveness on birds was done by Tom Roster. He studied non-toxic shot and for pheasants he recommended steel 2's or 3's for pheasants in IC (20-30 yards) or MOD (30-50 yards) chokes. In hevi-shot he recommended #4's. In general he found fewer/larger pellets put more pellets in the vitals than more/smaller pellets (I think he did his testing on dead birds at ranges of 20-50 yards). Based on his data, one could infer that lead 4 shot would be better as compared to 6's. Now, like I mentioned I don't necessarily follow this as I rarely shot lead 4's for pheasants, but I found the study interesting.

Anyway thanks for everyone who has offered information and advice. I am still trying to figure out what I am going to do and so if anybody has any thoughts I am all ears.

NVM
09-19-2013 09:58 PM
Gregking I thought I would share a funny story that happened awhile ago. It was opening weekend for out of staters. I was working in a hospital in a very well know town for great birds. In comes a guy from the north east part of the country with a couple BB's in his cheek. Luckily he was wearing safety glasses. The ER doc said we will have to cut your cheek to get those BB's out.

He replied " is this going to leave a mark?"

Doc "you will need to wear some band aides for a couple weeks"

The hunter "uh, can I leave them in?"

Doc " I do not suggest it"

The hunter " we'll my wife thinks I'm out here on business and if she found out what I'm really doing she will kill me".

He checked himself out plus 2. Lol
09-19-2013 09:36 PM
Gregking Exactly
09-19-2013 09:23 PM
reddog
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To all that don't know if you come in late November I would suggest leaving your 5 shot at home. Buy some 4 shot of your favorite brand, I like federals prairie storm because every box I buy a donation goes to pheasants forever. You are going to want the punch of a 4 shot to kill the bird.
Bring chokes, you may need as much as a full depending on how much the birds have been hunted

And AIM HIGH. These late birds might be flying low at this time. Be careful with your shot selection. We don't need dogs shot or anybody shot. I've been shot, I don't like it. I get very P.O. and by the time I'm done yelling (and i will be 3" from your face) someone's feelings are hurt and their rear has a boot in it. There is no need for that type of shooting nonsense.

Remember to have fun, respect the birds and those you hunt with
Depends on how you hunt and your shot selection. I hunt alone...(or if I'm with someone, we both go different ways with our own dogs) shoot 6s early and 5s later over pointing dogs with a IC over Mod tubes in my double... If my bird doesn't originate 20-25 yards or less, it doesn't get shot at. I don't need (or want)full choke, or prairie storm..

To each his own..
09-19-2013 04:31 PM
Gregking ridicule of gun safety helps no-one
09-19-2013 03:46 PM
beakerSD Yes in case you didn't know don't shoot at people or at dogs. Also don't look into the sun (especially during an eclipse because you will go blind), and when you cross the street be sure to look both ways.

Now that we got that out of the way and that I now I'm safe from being shot by you:



The pheasant population is less than stellar this year, in the past I have had good luck with walk-in areas up by shadehill. It is a long ways away though and not sure if it would be worth the drive this year.
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