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04-19-2021 03:02 PM
ECIRandy Back in the mid '80's my BF and I were packing up after fishing all day in central IL. I can't recall who saw it first but we both saw something in the air that I really can't explain. When we got home we told our folks what we saw and they thought we were drinking and not fishing, however, on the 10 PM news it was announced that many people saw the UFO and the Peoria National Guard radar tracked it and sent up some jets to see what it was. There was never an explanation. So I don't know if I believe or not but as large as space is it's hard to think we are it.
04-18-2021 07:00 AM
Pooch If we humans study everything from microbes to prime mates, why wouldn't another higher life form possibly be interested in studying humans and other forms of life on this or other planets?

Like I eluded to earlier in this thread, "if we encountered another life form, would we recognize it as a life form?" Maybe not.

Look at how uncivilized we humans behave. Proof enough that we are a crude, unsophisticated life form?

Time travel and light speeds are far beyond our grasp and only a fantasy at the moment, but like was said above, currently life as we know it has only been evolving for a few hundred thousand years on this planet. I think we are way behind relative to the universe or whatever this place we exist in actually is.

04-18-2021 06:28 AM
not realistic
not realistic

Of the incomprehensible amount of stars, planets, moons out there, the math shows that the probability is quite high that life is out there. However, with that being said, consider that intelligent life has been on earth about 200,000 yrs, sounds like a long time but it is infinitesimally small considering the universe is roughly 14 billion years old. Now, the chances that a flying machine from another planet (which would be far far away) happens to do a flyby of one of our naval vessels (or whatever) during our current (short) existence on this planet, I would very highly doubt it. Makes good conversation but just not realistic, in my opinion anyway. It's nice to think that we are that important that someone would want to travel many light years just because we are that interesting.
04-17-2021 08:00 PM
REW There is no reason not to believe that there are UFO's from some place that is not on this planet.

In the universe there are hundreds of millions of stars, planets, solar systems etc. etc. etc.

No reason at all why other beings from other place are not exploring their neighbors - both near and far.
04-17-2021 07:34 PM
kzoofisher Wasn’t Bob Hope in the USO? Strange looking dude.
04-17-2021 03:01 PM
grizzley What about USO's, they are even mentioning them in the recently released files, seems like some strange things going on in our oceans also.
04-17-2021 10:24 AM
Originally Posted by Pooch View Post
We are limiting ourselves in believing that all life forms are carbon based like us. I doubt that is true. We limit our understanding by assuming.

Anyone considered that some of the strange things people have seen are "unmanned" objects not unlike our Mars rovers only on a far more sophisticated scale?

Maybe other "life" forms are poking around in awe of our lack of understanding, like us always wondering what our dog is thinking or weirder yet... what the cat is thinking.

We know nothing.

agree...until we have scientific documented truth we will continue to only speculate and create situations that are not real.
04-16-2021 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymouse View Post
... THAT is a significant quantum jump in scientific understanding in a very short period of time...
Rapid, accelerating technological advances such as that have been common in many fields for a long time, now. Alvin Toffler wrote the book "Future Shock" way back in 1970 - more than 50 years ago - discussing the psychological ramifications of the phenomenon.

Seems far more likely to me that belief in alien visitation is a result of future shock than that any of our technology is a result of alien visitation.

04-16-2021 11:24 AM
kzoofisher Bringing it back with the latest developments

WASHINGTON - The massive $2.3 trillion coronavirus relief package signed by former President Donald Trump into law in 2020 triggered a countdown to a deadline by which the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense must provide lawmakers a report on what is known about UFOs.

Buried within the thousands of pages of legislation under the "Committee Comments" section of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021, a stipulation requested a report to senators on intelligence and armed services committees regarding any information surrounding UFO sightings and whether they present any potential threat.

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While the exact nature of the purported extraterrestrial threats were previously unknown, former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe spoke with FOX News’ Maria Bartiromo on Monday, saying "there are a lot more sightings" than the public is aware of.

Ratcliffe said there have been objects observed by U.S. military craft and satellites that have achieved forms of flight that would normally be impossible with any known human technology.

"When we talk about sightings, we are talking about objects that have seen by Navy or Air Force pilots, or have been picked up by satellite imagery that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain," he continued.

"Movements that are hard to replicate that we don't have the technology for. Or traveling at speeds that exceed the sound barrier without a sonic boom," Ratcliffe explained.

According to the stipulation within the legislation, the information is sought out by a government program known as the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) Task Force.


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03-09-2021 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by goldman View Post
So just where do ya’ll think the original idea for a computer came from? I’ve often wondered if humans are truly smart enough to think of that.

1801: In France, Joseph Marie Jacquard invents a loom that uses punched wooden cards to automatically weave fabric designs. Early computers would use similar punch cards.
1822: English mathematician Charles Babbage conceives of a steam-driven calculating machine that would be able to compute tables of numbers. The project, funded by the English government, is a failure. More than a century later, however, the world's first computer was actually built.
1890: Herman Hollerith designs a punch card system to calculate the 1880 census, accomplishing the task in just three years and saving the government $5 million. He establishes a company that would ultimately become IBM.
1936: Alan Turing presents the notion of a universal machine, later called the Turing machine, capable of computing anything that is computable. The central concept of the modern computer was based on his ideas.
1937: J.V. Atanasoff, a professor of physics and mathematics at Iowa State University, attempts to build the first computer without gears, cams, belts or shafts.
1939: Hewlett-Packard is founded by David Packard and Bill Hewlett in a Palo Alto, California, garage, according to the Computer History Museum.
1941: Atanasoff and his graduate student, Clifford Berry, design a computer that can solve 29 equations simultaneously. This marks the first time a computer is able to store information on its main memory.
1943-1944: Two University of Pennsylvania professors, John Mauchly and J. Presper Eckert, build the Electronic Numerical Integrator and Calculator (ENIAC). Considered the grandfather of digital computers, it fills a 20-foot by 40-foot room and has 18,000 vacuum tubes.
1946: Mauchly and Presper leave the University of Pennsylvania and receive funding from the Census Bureau to build the UNIVAC, the first commercial computer for business and government applications.

1947: William Shockley, John Bardeen and Walter Brattain of Bell Laboratories invent the transistor. They discovered how to make an electric switch with solid materials and no need for a vacuum.
WHICH, meh-be not so coincidentally, was ALSO the date of the Roswell, NM crash.

Vacuum tube technology we understand, since Thomas Edison figured out how to illuminate a bulb with DC electricity run through a cotton filament in a vacuum - but solid state (black box) technology?
How do you even SEE such things and understand their operation when the scanning electron microscope was in the infancy of it's creation, hardly at all available widely before the 1940s, and in itself now needs solid state technology to properly do it's job?

THAT is a significant quantum jump in scientific understanding in a very short period of time, based on a single early first solid state electronic device called the cat's whisker detector - a crude semiconductor diode invented around 1904 & without a lot of previous history of co-related fields of science until they sprang into existence in 1947.
That is very unlike the way Einstein simply pieced together Maxwell's (1865) & Lorentz's (1895) works done 40 and 10 years respectively, before publishing his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905 & extended works from that in 1916 & 1917.
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