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09-26-2021 10:30 AM
welll
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The other problem is the livewells don't have the raised rims and gaskets that the dry storage compartments have, when you take water over the stern or it rails you will get water in them.

Spelling correction: when it rains
09-26-2021 10:29 AM
welll The other problem is the livewells don't have the raised rims and gaskets that the dry storage compartments have, when you take water over the stern or it rails you will get water in them.
09-26-2021 07:03 AM
kswalleyer I have had only 1 boat with dry livewells...I have heard it has to do with putting the big motor in reverse and forcing water backwards through the system?....both my current boats always have some water in em. I just cap em as has been described...
09-25-2021 06:09 PM
Blackbass1 For what it's worth try plastic cap from 20oz bottle of soda. The cap fits perfectly on my livewells in stratos. Screws right on. Might work on yours, easy to see if works they are water tight.
09-22-2021 11:29 AM
Like2Fish
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Thanks, L2F, that information should prove helpful after I remove my mesh caps and can see for sure what I'm dealing with. With any luck it'll then be obvious exactly what plug(s) I need.

I don't really see much point in adjusting or replacing stuff to try to make the wells function properly, especially after having turned the boat over to my dealer to do so once already. If/when I want to use them as wells they will do fine, and to use them for dry storage - after what I've experienced and especially what I've read many other folks have experienced - I'll want them plugged, as I mentioned.

Seems like a meaningful design/manufacturing issue given that so many people experience the same few problems (bad valves, poorly adjusted cables) so often, doesn't it? I'm a lifelong fishkeeper as well as a fisherman, and I can assure you that no one in the fishkeeping hobby would tolerate such; the second time a person had a valve fail to close for whatever reason and an aquarium leaked out on the floor, word would go out far and wide and that device would stop selling in pretty short order. Maybe Flowrite needs more competition.

Gerry
Yep, you are welcome. Hopefully one of those plugs will work. I think Flow-Rite has changed their plumbing lines over time but I don't think that is necessarily true of the valves. I don't know if they are the top product line out there but they are the only line of valves I see in the boats I fish out of. I too wish they were a bit more reliable. Good luck with your live well issue.

Like2Fish
09-22-2021 08:48 AM
gbin
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Gerry,

I too have the mesh screens over the bait well and live well drains. I just unscrewed the screen and screwed on the cap I mentioned above and left the screen laying in the bait well. Perhaps the drains are different now as I did use a female threaded cap.

After doing a little search on Flow Rite website I think your drain might me designed a bit different than mine from 2007. Below is a link to their catalog. Scroll down to page 9 and note the section towards the bottom of the page titled "Drain screens and Plugs" Perhaps part number MA-045 or MA-050 will work for you.

https://www.flow-rite.com/wp-content...log-052121.pdf

I will guess your cable needs adjustment in order to stop the unwanted water from entering your wells. I've rebuilt my live well valves 2 or 3 times. Replacing the flappers each time. If you look at the valve there is a nub at the end of the cable, that nub needs to be up tight against the part labeled "I" in the diagram below. If the cable is not up tight against that part you will get water. Don't ask me how I know. A call to Flow Rite and a few bloody knuckles and I was good to go.

https://store.flow-rite.com/valve-re...ngmpa-060.html
Thanks, L2F, that information should prove helpful after I remove my mesh caps and can see for sure what I'm dealing with. With any luck it'll then be obvious exactly what plug(s) I need.

I don't really see much point in adjusting or replacing stuff to try to make the wells function properly, especially after having turned the boat over to my dealer to do so once already. If/when I want to use them as wells they will do fine, and to use them for dry storage - after what I've experienced and especially what I've read many other folks have experienced - I'll want them plugged, as I mentioned.

Seems like a meaningful design/manufacturing issue given that so many people experience the same few problems (bad valves, poorly adjusted cables) so often, doesn't it? I'm a lifelong fishkeeper as well as a fisherman, and I can assure you that no one in the fishkeeping hobby would tolerate such; the second time a person had a valve fail to close for whatever reason and an aquarium leaked out on the floor, word would go out far and wide and that device would stop selling in pretty short order. Maybe Flowrite needs more competition.

Gerry
09-20-2021 10:31 PM
REW Depending on whether you want to stop any water from coming into any part of your boat, you could remove the screen on the outside of the boat that feeds the livewell pump and replace the screen with a cap - after putting teflon tape on the threads to insure a secure fit. If no water comes into the boat through the livewell pump, no water will come in through that path.

If you have another hole in the back of the boat, that goes to the livewell, you could put a plug into that hole or if it is threaded, put a cap on it. If all holes in the back of the boat are plugged, there will be no water coming into the boat.


Take care
09-20-2021 07:44 PM
Like2Fish
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Maybe we have something different. When I look in my wells I see mesh domes over the drains with no way to screw the caps you linked over them. Assuming I can screw those mesh domes out of the drains, I reckon I would still need male plugs to screw into them, not female caps to place over them.

Gerry
Gerry,

I too have the mesh screens over the bait well and live well drains. I just unscrewed the screen and screwed on the cap I mentioned above and left the screen laying in the bait well. Perhaps the drains are different now as I did use a female threaded cap.

After doing a little search on Flow Rite website I think your drain might me designed a bit different than mine from 2007. Below is a link to their catalog. Scroll down to page 9 and note the section towards the bottom of the page titled "Drain screens and Plugs" Perhaps part number MA-045 or MA-050 will work for you.

https://www.flow-rite.com/wp-content...log-052121.pdf

I will guess your cable needs adjustment in order to stop the unwanted water from entering your wells. I've rebuilt my live well valves 2 or 3 times. Replacing the flappers each time. If you look at the valve there is a nub at the end of the cable, that nub needs to be up tight against the part labeled "I" in the diagram below. If the cable is not up tight against that part you will get water. Don't ask me how I know. A call to Flow Rite and a few bloody knuckles and I was good to go.

https://store.flow-rite.com/valve-re...ngmpa-060.html
09-20-2021 06:38 PM
gbin
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Originally Posted by David Anderson View Post
Your boat is still under warranty, it should not leak water into the livewell when the switch's are in the recirculate position. The recirculate seals off any outside path for water to leak out when running, and should do the same regarding letting in water.
I understand the shoulds and shouldn'ts of how the valves are supposed to work, but I appreciate you and Like2Fish making sure.

Fact is mine didn't work to keep water out from the time I brought it home new last year, no matter the setting. Asked the dealer to take care of the issue when I brought it back for other warranty work this year, he said he did, but he apparently didn't because it still doesn't keep water out, no matter the setting.

From what I've read online, this seems to be a VERY common issue, including after folks have replaced their valves, so I'm never going to trust the livewell/baitwell to hold dry goods without having some kind of plugs in them, anyway.

With respect to what plugs, I just figured someone here with the same or a similar boat has surely done what I mean to do and might be able to direct me to exactly what I need or at least the specific size(s) I need. I have no desire to go in and out and in and out and in and out... of hardware stores trying to figure it out by trial and error, only to end up stripping the threads in my wells and/or thinking I've got a good seal just to find out I don't after getting a bunch of stuff soaked. Much rather find out what I need and buy that, if possible.

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I have a 2007 619. I plugged my front bait well for the reasons you describe. I'm pretty certain that Ranger is using Flowrite components for there live well and bait well plumbing. I took the screen off the drain and used a plug similar to the ones below from Homedepot.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Charlott...00HD/203811708

I'm not sure if the above cap is the same that I purchased and if it is threaded the same as mine.

The above cap also comes in a 3/4 inch size. I capped mine so long ago that I don't recall the size. On the side of the bait well there is an overflow drain. I plugged that too and I don't recall what I did there, perhaps I just used a cork. As another poster stated you shouldn't get water in the either live well if you live well switches are in the recirculate position which mine is for the bait well. I just decided to cap my bait well anyway.
Maybe we have something different. When I look in my wells I see mesh domes over the drains with no way to screw the caps you linked over them. Assuming I can screw those mesh domes out of the drains, I reckon I would still need male plugs to screw into them, not female caps to place over them.

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Originally Posted by Ozark Bob View Post
Just don't move your selector for any reason or your formally dry stuff won't be anymore. May have been old age and I learned a lesson. 6 months after the mistake everything in there was real bad!(Hat,gloves' sweatshirt etc) Every mold known to man. I go for a more foolproof way to do it. Good plug and recirculate. At least for me! Bob
I reckon that's why I saw at least one person online recommend that you should pull the fuse(s) or otherwise disconnect the power to the wells if you plan to use them for dry storage. You must not be the only one to make that mistake! Come to think of it, even if I manage to remember, I've a fishing buddy who likes to push buttons and turn knobs and THEN ask what they do; maybe I should plug AND disconnect power, too, for his sake.

Gerry
09-20-2021 06:13 PM
Ozark Bob Just don't move your selector for any reason or your formally dry stuff won't be anymore. May have been old age and I learned a lesson. 6 months after the mistake everything in there was real bad!(Hat,gloves' sweatshirt etc) Every mold known to man. I go for a more foolproof way to do it. Good plug and recirculate. At least for me! Bob
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