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02-27-2021 06:20 PM
Johnboy You might get a decent deal on one of these. Look closely, I think there are two in the offering. They are stacked up.
http://watertown.mb.ca/new-boat-trai...wmso-03-mb219/
02-27-2021 04:14 PM
SJC305
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Originally Posted by tewwbulltom View Post
The rating on the trailer is gross weight, I think so you have to add that weight. A bigger issue would be the tires.I have a targa 2000 w 225 opti and way too much gear. I purchase 15” truck tires 2200#/ hull is 1750#, it’s a fiberglass boat I purchased from Jim carrol, n Dakota pro. You can’t go too big and remember w a 20’ boat hasntthe problems of a 16’. That is one way, dealers can make more profit.IMHO you’re way overloaded.
I could be wrong...just ask my wife...she’s a captain too.
The 1875 Impact XS's are typically placed on the shoreland'r (LUV30BELWMS0), which is a 3k capacity and 3780 GVRW. Their 4k tandem axles are 4k capacity and 5440 GVRW. (LUX40TELWSS0 - Roller)
02-27-2021 02:43 PM
Yellowfin123 hot runner's right you don't have to settle for the trailer that comes with the boat, i know the new lunds i'm keeping an eye on no way i'm taking the trailer their setting on now.. I'll have to bring my own and they deduct that 4-5k for their trailer or its no deal cuz for 5k i can buy alot nicer trailer
02-27-2021 02:31 PM
tewwbulltom The rating on the trailer is gross weight, I think so you have to add that weight. A bigger issue would be the tires.I have a targa 2000 w 225 opti and way too much gear. I purchase 15 truck tires 2200#/ hull is 1750#, its a fiberglass boat I purchased from Jim carrol, n Dakota pro. You cant go too big and remember w a 20 boat hasntthe problems of a 16. That is one way, dealers can make more profit.IMHO youre way overloaded.
I could be wrong...just ask my wife...shes a captain too.
02-27-2021 07:18 AM
Marty59
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Originally Posted by SJC305 View Post
A bunk trailer wouldn't be ideal by any means, but I didn't want to rule out any good options unnecessarily. I went through the Shoreland'r parts section and scrolled through the Lund OEM Trailers and found the standard bunk trailer listed for impacts. Then I searched the 4,000lb roller trailers to find the equivalent size roller tandem axle. My concern was as many, is there too much pressure per roller that would dent the hull up on long trips. (1k mile NW Ontario)

There are a few threads here and Anonymouse posted up about the psi per roller, so that got me into researching that end of it. The trailers now days seem to come with 12 sets of rollers per side (24) total. The believe the size of the shorelander roller is about 5x3 roughly, so the estimate seems to be about 1.5 cubic inches of contact per roller. Taking the 3,000lb estimate / 35 (1.5in3 x 24) = 83.33psi per roller.

I agree that that bunk trailers do support the boat weight better. But my back would be more happy with the rollers long term. In time, I figure I'll end up taking the paint off the front bottom of it anyways doing shorelunches, builds character!

Some one mentioned Trailmaster now has the Ultimate Bunk boards as an option. Those board give you bunk support but are as slick as rollers. Never had a problem in shallow water where I couldn't float the boat on to winch it up. But just like rollers, you have to keep the chain and winch strap on until you are over water or you WILL dump the boat off the back.

Marty
02-27-2021 06:52 AM
SJC305 A bunk trailer wouldn't be ideal by any means, but I didn't want to rule out any good options unnecessarily. I went through the Shoreland'r parts section and scrolled through the Lund OEM Trailers and found the standard bunk trailer listed for impacts. Then I searched the 4,000lb roller trailers to find the equivalent size roller tandem axle. My concern was as many, is there too much pressure per roller that would dent the hull up on long trips. (1k mile NW Ontario)

There are a few threads here and Anonymouse posted up about the psi per roller, so that got me into researching that end of it. The trailers now days seem to come with 12 sets of rollers per side (24) total. The believe the size of the shorelander roller is about 5x3 roughly, so the estimate seems to be about 1.5 cubic inches of contact per roller. Taking the 3,000lb estimate / 35 (1.5in3 x 24) = 83.33psi per roller.

I agree that that bunk trailers do support the boat weight better. But my back would be more happy with the rollers long term. In time, I figure I'll end up taking the paint off the front bottom of it anyways doing shorelunches, builds character!
02-26-2021 06:49 AM
Johnboy Wouldn't the bunk trailer give you some grief on those shallow launches you mentioned in your first post ?
I have had ShorLand'r trailers and they were very nice trailers.
I would suggest that you put your mind at ease and get the dual axle roller trailer.
02-25-2021 10:26 AM
SJC305 This has all been great feedback and definitely helps. One of the the Lund dealers that I've been looking at also carries Trailmaster trailers. I believe they sit the boat lower due to the angled axles, is that correct?

If so, I would be between a Trailmaster Bunk since it would sit lower, or a shoreland'r custom dual axle roller. I know the general consensus here on WC is that Trailmaster's are quality trailers and give you lots of options.
02-24-2021 01:39 PM
Dacotah Eye I'm certainly no expert, but my boat dealer had been selling boats for many years and I asked him about roller trailers giving hulls enough support. He said if the rollers are supporting the hull correctly you should be able to take any roller and turn it by hand while the boat is sitting on the trailer. I could do that on any of the roller trailers that I have owned. He also said the back rollers should be directly under the transom as mine were. Two of those boats were aluminum and one was glass. At my age I doubt I could turn the rollers, but the last three of my boats have come on bunk trailers. I have never seen a dent or depression in a boat hull due to a roller trailer that was set up right.
02-24-2021 12:38 PM
MarkG
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Originally Posted by TomP. View Post
I have always wondered bout this bunks versus roller supporting the boat better, almost all larger boats 25 plus feet have rollers. Boards bend under weight so in my opinion the only place that gets real support is where the bracket is that holds the boards.

You do not see what it looks like where the bunks contact the boat have a good freind that his aluminum 19 footer sits on bunks. I was helping him load his boat and notice there was hardly any paint left where the bunks slid and made contact with the boat.

Re larger boats on rollers, (Not making a case for bunks, although for any size I am likely to own ,would never go back to rollers)... for the 25 ft + ,,likely a practical issue? In most cases You probably could never float a deep draft 25ft+ boat off a set of bunks? (Unless you intend to launch you tow vehicle with it .)
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