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09-14-2021 08:59 AM
REW Bill,
I had a similar experience years ago.
My father in law had a pair of trout ponds below a spring up in the mountains on his ranch.
There was a family reunion and my mother in law said that we needed 22 trout to feed the group.

I will say, that many in the group had never really fished before.

We were using fresh caught grasshoppers for bait on that day.

I helped a bunch of the folks rig up their line and many of the folks hooked a fish but had trouble landing the fish.

I started with 4 lb line and had a bunch of bites, but I couldn't get them to the bank due to the vegetation in the pond when the fish would wrap itself in the plants and break the line.

Finally, I switched to 6 lb line and began to land the fish. Unfortunately most of the other folks also hooked the fish, but had trouble getting any to shore.

But, finally, to get bit - I went back to 4 lb line and changed my retreive enough to be able to get the multiple bites maneuvered through the plants and back to shore. At the end of the day, enough fish were caught to fill the 22 fish quota and give a great dinner to everyone in the group.

But, the point of the discussion was that there was a tremendous difference in the number of bites by the line shy rainbow trout on this particular day by the line size difference between 4 and 6 lb test line.

The lines were the same brand, same color - just the diameter was different.

Best wishes.
09-14-2021 06:53 AM
Bill Krejca Reminds me of an old experience when I was 14 years old re: sorta test. I fished anchored on a small wing dam on the Cedar River, fished with 2 rods(OK in Iowa). Both had the same larger split shot and hook, large shiner minnow for bait. I though I was fishing for walleyes, but couldn't keep the flatheads off of my lines. Interestingly, one rod accounted for 6 of the 7 fish caught. The only difference was the winning rod was spooled with 6 lb test mono, the loser with 8. I surmised the somewhat smaller dia 6 lb had a bit less water resistance and allowed the bait to be a little deeper in the water column. I though both baits were on/near the bottom, but...

Bill
09-14-2021 01:57 AM
REW JJY,
If you take two identical rods, reels, and terminal tackle - but have different line of one sort or another - and fish them both at the same time for the full time on the water:

Do you consistently catch more fish with one setup compared to another?

The reason that I ask the question is that I have done such a thing on various occasions and I have found that generally there is almost no difference in a days catch - no matter what line I have used.

Perhaps, others have found differences.

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I wonder how often someone fishes a certain way, or with certain gear because someone has told them to do it that way. But, I wonder if something is done differently, if the results would be better.

But as time has gone by, I tend to worry much less about what anything else is doing and am content to simply do things that I enjoy and make me happy. Plenty of things to worry about in ones lives, as opposed to try to direct anyone else's direction as to how they spend their time.

If you like to fish - than go fish. If you like to fish a particular way - then by all means fish that way.

But above all - have a long, happy and fruitful life.
09-13-2021 04:37 PM
jjy
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JJY
You said, "fluro" is more sensitive.

Sensitive is generally described as the ability to transfer vibrations from a source to a destination.

So, the implication is that a solid rod would be the most sensitive line available since the rod would transfer even tiny vibrations due to the composition of the rod.

From the previous postings, it has been revealed, that they typical fluro line in a given diameter actually stretches more than a mono line of the same diameter.

As a result, with less stretch - one has to conclude that Mono line is more sensitive than the comparable fluro line.

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But, the entire discussion is about "semantics."

Rather than using a term like "sensitivity, or stretch, or invisibility in the water" forget about all of the words.

Rather use words like - "I catch more fish using fluro line."

No other words are necessary. Often, fishing is about confidence. If one particular line gives you more confidence about catching fish - then - by all means use that line - no matter what others say that are good or bad about the line.

This is all about "Free Choice."

Pick your rod. Pick your reel. Pick your line. Pick your terminal tackle.

Go fishing and catch a lot of fish to be either released or consumed.

Have a great day.
I'll stand by my statement. I drop shot two of the same rods, same reels, same main line, same drop shot rigs and fluro has better feel/sensitivity in water. I also match diameters of fluro vs. mono, not lb test.
09-13-2021 01:39 PM
Ozark Bob Would be nice to forget all those "words". However density is important to feel. It also implies it would be harder to stretch. This is the key here. Total stretch is one thing density another. Bob
09-12-2021 01:26 PM
REW JJY
You said, "fluro" is more sensitive.

Sensitive is generally described as the ability to transfer vibrations from a source to a destination.

So, the implication is that a solid rod would be the most sensitive line available since the rod would transfer even tiny vibrations due to the composition of the rod.

From the previous postings, it has been revealed, that they typical fluro line in a given diameter actually stretches more than a mono line of the same diameter.

As a result, with less stretch - one has to conclude that Mono line is more sensitive than the comparable fluro line.

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But, the entire discussion is about "semantics."

Rather than using a term like "sensitivity, or stretch, or invisibility in the water" forget about all of the words.

Rather use words like - "I catch more fish using fluro line."

No other words are necessary. Often, fishing is about confidence. If one particular line gives you more confidence about catching fish - then - by all means use that line - no matter what others say that are good or bad about the line.

This is all about "Free Choice."

Pick your rod. Pick your reel. Pick your line. Pick your terminal tackle.

Go fishing and catch a lot of fish to be either released or consumed.

Have a great day.
09-12-2021 07:44 AM
Hawker
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little blue pill
09-11-2021 05:08 PM
Ozark Bob little blue pill
09-11-2021 09:30 AM
REW gbin,
If you want more stiffness in Mono - simply increase the lb test of the line and it will be stiffer.

No increase in price, no increase in knot issues.
09-10-2021 11:47 AM
jjy I agree with their assessment of fluro vs braid but it really depends upon which fluro and mono. They both come in stiff and limp varieties. It really depends on application but I do think fluro is more sensitive because it is denser. I also like it in deep water situations drop shotting because it sinks and I have better feel for bottom. I normally run 8 to 10lb braid to fluro leaders. My leaders are often 10-20' pending depth fished. When live bait fishing in clear water, you get more bites with the longer leader. I've tested this over and over. Especially when dragging through the school. Live bait fishing, mono works equally as well as fluro. I like the line to float and bring minnow up slightly.
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