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09-21-2021 11:37 AM
Ozark Bob Premium reels cost more, last longer and work better. I have Shimano Tekota's for the majority of my trolling, Lead core(limited use) the Coldwaters seem to be holding up. Sometimes things are worth a bit more for a reason. I had and repaired many Daiwa 17,27 and 47 reels for many years. Put drag washer kits on and they performed well. Money can come into the decision. I know, I was young and cash strapped as well. Bob
09-21-2021 09:59 AM
Common Man Nope not missing anything... The clicker on these suck. I had the clicker turned on and with the bail open and it happened. I contour troll the Mississippi river and lake Pepin so I get my share of snags. I usually close the bail and set the drag light. This can help but it will still break the clicker. I have one that needs to be fixed so I'll take a pic of the process.
09-21-2021 08:26 AM
walleyefan9 To complete this thread for anyone reading in the future, I used 12 lb. suffix mono backer, and 5 colors of advanced 18 lb. lead core (Suffix 832) on both of my CW203D reels. It took 200 feet of mono to fill the spool, and there is no way in **** I'm ever going to try again to get the mono inside the sheath of the leadcore for a Willis knot. I broke of 6" of lead, and tied a double uni-knot for the mono-leadcore connection, and I used a 10' 10 lb. fluorocarbon leader on both ends, and used the same knot on both. So far, they are holding pretty strong as I attempted to reel in bumper on my Ram 2500 cummins diesel.

I'll know if this works in action next week when I get up north, on a lake.

Thanks for the knowledge and assistance.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but in the past, on Lake Michigan fishing salmon, we always set the reels open with the clicker/drag set to just prevent the line from going out. When a fish hit, the clicker would sing out, and when I started to reel in the fish, the spool/drag would close, and there was never an issue with snags destroying a setup.

Am I missing something? It's been 20 years since my FIL passed, and that was the last time I trolled this way.
09-21-2021 07:55 AM
Common Man I have 2 of the CW303D and they are pretty good reels. Nice drags but watch the clicker. If you get hung up trolling at 2.5+ MPH and you have the clicker turned on it may come apart... both of mine did. If you take the side panel off you can put them back together and it should be fine until the next time you get hung up.

I can easily get 7 colors with backing on the 303 model so I would think you will be fine with 5 colors.
09-21-2021 07:32 AM
andersaki
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Well, after trying for 2 hours (I kid you not) to thread 12 lb. backer mono through the sheath of the leadcore, with 6" of lead removed, I gave up and tied a double uni knot. I hope it works, or this experiment will be a failure. I pulled on it pretty hard, and it didn't budge, so we'll see.
Ya, tying a Willis knot with advanced lc is an exercise in frustration. The inner sheath diameter is just too small. I tie an overhang knot at the end of the leadcore with the lead IN the sheath, do not pull it tight at this time. Slip your backing through the overhang knot and tie a single uni knot. Snug up the overhang knot in the lc with a pliers and pull the uni knot tight against it. Snip off the tag ends and go fishing.

Mark
09-21-2021 06:43 AM
last chance
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Well, after trying for 2 hours (I kid you not) to thread 12 lb. backer mono through the sheath of the leadcore, with 6" of lead removed, I gave up and tied a double uni knot. I hope it works, or this experiment will be a failure. I pulled on it pretty hard, and it didn't budge, so we'll see.
the best way I know in your case where you have 2 reels to spool. take 1 reel spool the 5 colors on the reel. then tie on your backer and fill the reel with the backer taking note as to how much backer you used. cut the backer and tie the end of the backer to the other reel. now spool the backer and lead onto that reel, it should be full. now tie the backer to the empty reel and spool the amount of backer you used on the other reel then tie your lead to the backer and put the 5 colors on top. both reels will have the same amount of backer and 5 colors and be full. full doesn't mean ready to go over the sides. leave just a little space at the top.

I use the 17 Daiwa reels and love the small size. 4 of my sg17lca reels bit the dust this yr. I contacted tunasreeltroubles.com to get them repaired but was told they were too old. so I'm replacing them with the 203 reels. i just hope they hold 150' of 16 lb ande line and 300' of 65 lb power pro braid.
09-20-2021 11:10 PM
walleyefan9 Well, after trying for 2 hours (I kid you not) to thread 12 lb. backer mono through the sheath of the leadcore, with 6" of lead removed, I gave up and tied a double uni knot. I hope it works, or this experiment will be a failure. I pulled on it pretty hard, and it didn't budge, so we'll see.
09-20-2021 09:12 PM
Dave in Walker I do not know that reel, but remember every reel that you use with the linecounter will have to be calibrated, otherwise counter is unaccurate, many youtube videos on how to calibrate
09-18-2021 08:17 AM
Ozark Bob Two things, 203 will hold 5 colors with plenty of backing, The Willis knot will not work with many of the newer (thinner diameter) lines. There are many different knots that will work.( online video) Bob
NOTE: Make a note of how much backer you need to fill the reel for when you do the second setup
09-17-2021 06:22 PM
walleyefan9 Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I was planning on using the same knot to tie on the backer, and to tie on a 10' leader of fluorocarbon.

Thanks.
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