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05-14-2021 03:34 AM
Richb Thanks! I ended up ordering 3 solix 12’s, an ultrex, and a 360 transducer that will mount on the TM. My only concern at this point is that there may be times when I would rather fish and control the boat from the back. In this case I’ll prob have to switch to a terrova and mount the 360 off the rail. So your comment about having multiple mounting locations is intriguing. I’m gonna fish with the boat like this for a season before making any changes though.
05-13-2021 10:04 PM
FinmanPoozie If you call Humminbird, their customer service is willing to spend tons of time figuring it all out

MDI- bow
MSI- helm

I have 1 Helix 9, 2 Helix 10s, 2 Hummiinbird networks connected together, Ultrex with iPilot (& MDI-- MSI is not an option). 2 units are on transducers & I have 2 other sets of cable ran for extra mounting locations. There's a plethora of options when it's all networked

With all of their mapping options, they literally spent a couple hours helping me figure it out. Same for when I had to pick the sonars out too. Super helpful.

PM me if you want & I can elaborate more to see if it helps

Happy fishing!!
04-10-2021 12:04 PM
TomP.
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Originally Posted by Richb View Post
They offer an MSI through hull transducer with the Helix. Any experience on whether or not this performs as well as the transom mounted transducer?
MinnKota offers a DI 2D shoot thru in hull transducer ( for high speed ) I have never seen an in hull shoot thru SI transducer as that would never work. They offer one where you have to drill a hole thru the hull so the SI transducer in placed in the water.
04-10-2021 11:57 AM
TomP.
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Originally Posted by Timmer92 View Post
I have similar questions as I have a new boat on order with 3 graphs. I used to an IT guy, and based on networking I think I understand functions and limitations. My THOUGHTS, not knowledge as of yet:

- Your graphs, trolling motor, and GPS head will be physically connected to Humminbird ethernet switch. Nothing will be directly connected to a graph or trolling motor. Therefore, all devices are physically available to each other over the Humminbird network and no device will "see" another as being physically different from another from a connectivity perspective.
- The i-Pilot software is what allows the graphs to "talk" to the trolling motor over the network. You will be able to use this feature from any graph that is capable of using i-Pilot Link.
- When at a graph, you will only be able to perform the functions available on that graph. If I'm at graph 1 which has a map chip, I can set it to go to a waypoint or follow a contour based on data from the map chip. If I'm at graph 2, where I don't have a map chip, I can set a waypoint using generic graph location data, but not based on map chip details because I don't have a chip in graph 2.
-Given the above, this is where it gets interesting to me. What I can't say for sure is what happens if two graphs are talking to the trolling motor at the same time. In general, I don't foresee a problem with 2 graphs talking to the trolling motor as I imagine it's just like having two different computers connected to 1 printer. Each will talk to it independently. What I'm interested to understand is what happens if I'm giving the trolling motor commands from 2 different units? If I go to graph 1 and tell the trolling motor to go to waypoint 1, then I go to graph 2 and tell the trolling motor to go to waypoint 2, what happens? Have they built something into the software to tell it to use the most recent command, or do they fight? Does the trolling motor lose its marbles? Does it spin in circles?

Anyone with real knowledge certainly chime in!
The trolling motor will make the change to the second input because that was last command.

Each unit will have it`s own transducer connected, each unit will be connected to the network via cable to the ethernet box, which will then share that across the network.
04-09-2021 06:56 AM
Timmer92
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Originally Posted by Snowking View Post
Normally I think of can not share mapping. As if you have a mapping chip such as Lakemaster in your dash unit. The lakemaster map only shows up on your dash unit. You would need a lakemaster chip for both units.
I have similar questions as I have a new boat on order with 3 graphs. I used to an IT guy, and based on networking I think I understand functions and limitations. My THOUGHTS, not knowledge as of yet:

- Your graphs, trolling motor, and GPS head will be physically connected to Humminbird ethernet switch. Nothing will be directly connected to a graph or trolling motor. Therefore, all devices are physically available to each other over the Humminbird network and no device will "see" another as being physically different from another from a connectivity perspective.
- The i-Pilot software is what allows the graphs to "talk" to the trolling motor over the network. You will be able to use this feature from any graph that is capable of using i-Pilot Link.
- When at a graph, you will only be able to perform the functions available on that graph. If I'm at graph 1 which has a map chip, I can set it to go to a waypoint or follow a contour based on data from the map chip. If I'm at graph 2, where I don't have a map chip, I can set a waypoint using generic graph location data, but not based on map chip details because I don't have a chip in graph 2.
-Given the above, this is where it gets interesting to me. What I can't say for sure is what happens if two graphs are talking to the trolling motor at the same time. In general, I don't foresee a problem with 2 graphs talking to the trolling motor as I imagine it's just like having two different computers connected to 1 printer. Each will talk to it independently. What I'm interested to understand is what happens if I'm giving the trolling motor commands from 2 different units? If I go to graph 1 and tell the trolling motor to go to waypoint 1, then I go to graph 2 and tell the trolling motor to go to waypoint 2, what happens? Have they built something into the software to tell it to use the most recent command, or do they fight? Does the trolling motor lose its marbles? Does it spin in circles?

Anyone with real knowledge certainly chime in!
04-09-2021 06:44 AM
7 Mag
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Originally Posted by Richb View Post
They offer an MSI through hull transducer with the Helix. Any experience on whether or not this performs as well as the transom mounted transducer?
No I donít have any experience with that transducer.
04-09-2021 06:42 AM
7 Mag
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Originally Posted by Richb View Post
I thought that the hummingbirds already had the lake maps built in. Would I still need chips for different lakes with the Helix units?
They have built in mapping however youíll need the Lakemaster chip to use follow the contour and the chips provide greater detail and other features. Take a look at their website they discuss the different chips and features as there are different versions available.
04-09-2021 06:30 AM
Richb
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Originally Posted by 7 Mag View Post
The Ulterra has MSI & DI, I have a console mounted Helix 10 MSI utilizing the transom transducer and the images are comparable with the Ulterra images on my bow Helix. Speed can affect the image quality on both units so you learn when to use it and when not to use it. I like the MSI on the bow especially when Iím casting.
They offer an MSI through hull transducer with the Helix. Any experience on whether or not this performs as well as the transom mounted transducer?
04-09-2021 06:26 AM
Richb
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Originally Posted by Snowking View Post
Normally I think of can not share mapping. As if you have a mapping chip such as Lakemaster in your dash unit. The lakemaster map only shows up on your dash unit. You would need a lakemaster chip for both units.
I thought that the hummingbirds already had the lake maps built in. Would I still need chips for different lakes with the Helix units?
04-09-2021 06:19 AM
7 Mag
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Originally Posted by BondJmsBond998 View Post
Pardon me if I am wrong, but I thought you had no choice but to mount the MSI transducer that comes with the unit on the transom to achieve full side imaging?

I am not even sure if the built-in transducer on a minn kota can provide side imaging, and if so, is it as good as the regular MSI transducer on the transom?

Also, if side imaging is possible from the minn kota, wouldn't it be a bit odd looking when making a turn with the trolling motor?
The Ulterra has MSI & DI, I have a console mounted Helix 10 MSI utilizing the transom transducer and the images are comparable with the Ulterra images on my bow Helix. Speed can affect the image quality on both units so you learn when to use it and when not to use it. I like the MSI on the bow especially when Iím casting.
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