Halloween Storm Damage on Lake Erie

[Shellback]

Originally Posted by C Hammond

Remember you just cant let unlimited flow out of the St Lawrence other wise you will flood out Montreal.

This is true during the spring flood season, but has no bearing afterwards. Anyhow, they choose to save Montreal, yet allow others to bear the burden of flooding. If the dams weren't built for the Seaway, I guess Montreal would of had to deal with the flooding. Just saying, this isn't Mother Nature, it's man's intervention for commerce.

[kzoofisher]

All the lakes are 2-3’ above average, nothing unusual about the Ontario level. Does anyone have any information that shows the St Lawrence isn’t flowing at the rate expected with this level? That the flow could be artificially increased enough to lower the lake? That such an action wouldn’t flood downstream properties that are safe from natural flows? No? Well, maybe let’s not flood out people who built safely so the ones who built too close or didn’t maintain their sea walls don’t have to take responsibility for their actions.

Originally Posted by Misdirection

I always wondered why they didn't truck in fill and raise New Orleans after Katrina like that did Galveston after it was leveled by a hurricane in the early 1900's.

New Orleans continues to sink, same with the levees that they've spent Billion of $$ rebuilding. It would be a waste of time to try to fill. They need to move the people out of the worst areas and quit spending tax dollars trying to save that sinking ship.

[Shellback]

Originally Posted by kzoofisher

All the lakes are 2-3’ above average, nothing unusual about the Ontario level. Does anyone have any information that shows the St Lawrence isn’t flowing at the rate expected with this level? That the flow could be artificially increased enough to lower the lake? That such an action wouldn’t flood downstream properties that are safe from natural flows? No? Well, maybe let’s not flood out people who built safely so the ones who built too close or didn’t maintain their sea walls don’t have to take responsibility for their actions.

Here's a webinar on facebook which details a 2014 plan the the International Joint Commision put in place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6xE...dus9jDYDwvh954

Seems the IJC has been violating the 2014 plan in 2017 and again in 2019 by not releasing the water during flood conditions. Plain and simple they are managing the river for ship navigation and property owners be ****ed.

[Custom Eyes]

With all the discussion about releasing water, it got me thinking. Who makes the decisions about water levels and dam flow in various places? There are 2 dams between my area and Lake Huron and several on connecting waters. All year, they've been holding the water level at just below flood stage from upstream of here to Huron. There has to some sort of coordination in the decision making process of how the different dams on connecting waterways are operated.

[CSH Kucinski]

Originally Posted by Shellback

You might want to check where the outflow is to all the Great Lakes. It's the St Lawrence. So you are saying the water won't flow out of the higher elevation lakes faster if the lakes down stream are lower? The St Lawrence can only pass so much water at one time, but they are holding back water to permit ship navigation on the Seaway.

[CSH Kucinski]

Originally Posted by Shellback

This is true during the spring flood season, but has no bearing afterwards. Anyhow, they choose to save Montreal, yet allow others to bear the burden of flooding. If the dams weren't built for the Seaway, I guess Montreal would of had to deal with the flooding. Just saying, this isn't Mother Nature, it's man's intervention for commerce.

[kswalleyer]

wow I had no idea there were dams anywhere north of about southern Iowa let alone on the St Lawrence

I was wondering where all that drift wood had come from now I know.