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Old 06-13-2017, 12:44 PM
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Default Optimax to be discontinued?

Heard from a retired engineer at Merc that the Optimax will dropped from the Merc line. Anyone else heard that? I apologize if I'm late to the party on this news.
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Old 06-13-2017, 03:42 PM
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My buddy works at Merc in the engineering group. I will see him fishing tomorrow night and ask. While I am not an Opti fan (don't like the noise and 2 stroke smell), I don't want to see this motor go away either. Hopefully what you are hearing is false.
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Old 06-13-2017, 03:44 PM
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Sooner or later all 2 cycle outboards are going the way of the dinosaur.
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Old 06-13-2017, 04:04 PM
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Sooner or later all 2 cycle outboards are going the way of the dinosaur.
Based on EPA standards? I use to feel the same way, until our new administration came into the white house.
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Old 06-13-2017, 04:24 PM
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I love the howl of a WOT 2-stroke as much as the next guy. But, regardless of the technology used the 2-stroke will be gone in the not too far future. Continuing EPA restrictions will limit the technology lifelines it's been getting. You can do more and control more with a 4-stroke at a fraction of the pollution. Now, I'm sure someone is going to tell me to youtube the Evinrude videos and try explaining torque and HP to me but save your breath. If I were to order a new boat it would probably had a Pro XS on it. I love them. I just see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:24 PM
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I love the howl of a WOT 2-stroke as much as the next guy. But, regardless of the technology used the 2-stroke will be gone in the not too far future. Continuing EPA restrictions will limit the technology lifelines it's been getting. You can do more and control more with a 4-stroke at a fraction of the pollution. Now, I'm sure someone is going to tell me to youtube the Evinrude videos and try explaining torque and HP to me but save your breath. If I were to order a new boat it would probably had a Pro XS on it. I love them. I just see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Loved my 2007 150 VMAX! The 2011 150 4 stroke I have now is a good motor as well, but not as fast and I liked burning the oil more than changing it.

The VMAX was 2 star, the 4 is 3 star:

http://www.marineenginedigest.com/sp...tar-System.htm

If I read that correctly, 2 star VMAX produced 80% less emissions than carbureted 2 stroke and the 4 stroke would be about 90% less.

So for 10% less emissions, a little better mileage, and quieter motors at low speed we're giving up torque/holeshot and paying for more maintenance.

Progress I guess.
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Old 06-13-2017, 05:27 PM
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I would have a hard time understanding their reasoning short of something forcing their hand. Customers who want two strokes obviously have other options. Why would they give up those sales when they have so much invested in their knowledge?
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Loved my 2007 150 VMAX! The 2011 150 4 stroke I have now is a good motor as well, but not as fast and I liked burning the oil more than changing it.

The VMAX was 2 star, the 4 is 3 star:

http://www.marineenginedigest.com/sp...tar-System.htm

If I read that correctly, 2 star VMAX produced 80% less emissions than carbureted 2 stroke and the 4 stroke would be about 90% less.

So for 10% less emissions, a little better mileage, and quieter motors at low speed we're giving up torque/holeshot and paying for more maintenance.

Progress I guess.
I expect the EPA thinks of this as "half the emissions of a 2-star outboard" and they don't give a rip about how it pushes your boat or pulls money out of your wallet.
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I've been seeing funny shaped outboards getting tested at the Mercury facility in Oshkosh... not sure if they are a Optimax "G2" or a updated Verado....
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If in fact Mercury is dropping the Opti I would guess they think the 2 strokes in any form are about to be dinosaurs of past technology.
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