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Old 10-19-2021, 08:21 PM
Yellowfin123 Yellowfin123 is offline
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This'll be a bit long but it's all true.

Memorial Day weekend in 2002 on a Tuesday I picked up a new boat. A Monark King 190. Bottom of the barrel boat looking back but I had no clue back then. The boat had zero strakes, had a kicker on the starboard side & had a big lean to the right (me + the kicker). Gunnels were 98", but the chine was only 71-72". This was also the 1st boat with a steering wheel that I was ever in. The boat never made a left turn for some unknown reason.

Ran it locally for a couple days to get the feel for it. No biggey.

On Friday, to Lake Ontario we went.

The wife & I had a weekend trip planned around Henderson Harbor. I read all about "watch the weather" & I did (bluebird skies & breezy), so I crossed the bay to show off the boat to my parents who were camping @Westcot Beach if I remember correctly. it was a bit breezy & I was going with the wind.

2 miles maybe crossing the bay. No biggey.

While I was there, the breeze turned into a major wind....and I had to get back to my dock. The campground is really protected so the wind was pretty calm.... until I passed into the bay & caught the lakes full wind, and now I was going dead into it.

I had to angle to my left because there was a point that broke the wind. To my right was the wind head on.

This boat was deep. Sitting in the seat, the gunnel would be up to your shoulder. The gunnel was nearly as high as the top of the Merc 125 that it came with. Hopefully that paints a picture. That boat was like holding a sheet of plywood and walking into the wind. It was terrible...no strakes, never made a left turn as long as I owned it.


What I wound up doing was angling up a wave, reach the crest, skoot to my left, angle down into a trough & repeat. Maybe i moved 10' with each crest, maybe 5'... I was just trying to stay alive. I always had a clear view of the next crest & of the point in the distance. Going straight into a wave took water over the bow, so I knew that was wrong. My hope was that I'd get lucky with the correct angle going up & down so I didn't roll the boat.

BUT-- One time in a trough, I looked to my right and the water was at least 1 1/2' above my head and I remember suddenly becoming aware of all around me was water. No land. I swear, I'm not exaggerating & there was no single moment where I was more outright terrified that I might not make it to land again. My wife called my cell after I was gone for hours, heard my voice and she went into a panic mode hearing me. All I said was "I can't talk right now" & threw the phone on the floor...can't talk with that much stuff going on.

The majority was me being a newbie, me not knowing my boat, me putting a kicker on the wrong side, me going to a lake where I should not have been, me not knowing what "read the weather" really meant, and me being clueless about what a boat can actually do... a rope bounced over & wrapped around my prop, killing the main engine. While sloshing around, I had to reach over & undo the tangle. The boat was fine, I was not... my nerves were shot. I still had 1 3/4 miles to go after that mess up

That 2 mile ride back to the dock took me almost 4 hours. And I was shot for the weekend. Even 12" rollers made my stomach sink, so I left the boat docked until we came home.

The following year, I traded it for a Lund 2025 Pro-V. The dealer said the next owner went to Ontario, got caught with the boat not handling well & traded it in for a SmokerCraft 2 weeks later.

For 8 or 10 years, I got goosebumps whenever I described all of these details... it's all true. Every word.

After all of it, I was told: "If you see the big boats docked on a sunny day-- stay on land because there's a reason they didn't go out"...bit more in-line with how to read the weather

I've gone to Ontario again but stayed in the bays, never had the courage to hit the main lake yet.

It's all true. There were so many things I shouldn't have done that weekend!!!

I attached a pic of the boat that I found online. When you're sitting in that & water is over your head and on a full 360 degrees--- it's scary as ****!!

Happy fishing!!!

WOW!! that was some great reading... that was 1 of those times that if you stuck a piece of coal up your butt it woulda came out a 10 ct diamond
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:33 AM
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JT,
A common reason for boats sinking is to either spear a wave - where the bow gets buried in a wave, or you pitch pole ,where water floods the boat from the stern.

So, if you are running in waves that are several times taller than your boat, you do not want to drive directly into or away from the waves. Either of these cases could easily swamp a boat.

Rather, you want to quarter the wave. So, if you are going into a wave , you do not point the nose of the boat into the wave, but rather you hit the wave at about 45 degrees. So you go 1/2 sideways up the front side of the waves, and then slide down the back side of the wave 1/2 sideways as well. This means that the boat will be doing huge rocking from side to side as you negotiate each wave - but you will be doing the driving through the waves safely without swamping the boat.

Some folks suggest that the motor be trimmed down so that the bow cuts the waves. That may be all right to a point, but if you have the nose trimmed down and then encounter a much larger rogue wave, the entire boat will get buried in the wave and you will sink.

I would rather trim up the boat so that the front 1/3rd of the boat takes the wave, splits the wave and deflects water to each side of the boat, - rather than having the wave come over your head.

I know that there have been more than one time when I was faced with huge waves for a run back to the cabin. In these cases, I figure that I take about double the distance to get back to the cabin. This is because I will hit the waves at about 45 degrees and stay on that course for about a mile or so. Then, I will make a cut back and come back at about 45 degrees for the next tack against the waves. This continues until one encounters waves that may be driven head on. Then, the course can straighten out and the boat driven straight back.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/heavy2.htm

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/waves.htm

http://www.docksidereports.com/rough...amanship_1.htm

http://www.unitedmarine.net/blog/ind...in-rough-seas/

http://www.boatus.com/magazine/trail...vy-weather.asp

This is great info, but what is "pitch pole" where you would get flooded from the stern? I never heard of that so I want to make sure I never do it. How does it happen?
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:20 AM
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This is great info, but what is "pitch pole" where you would get flooded from the stern? I never heard of that so I want to make sure I never do it. How does it happen?
Pitch pole or pitchpoling is when you come over a large wave, stuff your bow, and the next large wave turns your boat sideways. If that second wave is big enough or you dont have enough power (or dont use it properly), it'll roll your boat over.



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