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Old 05-22-2021, 09:10 AM
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So, to address these issues, I've invested in some Bullseye guide posts which I'm adding to the trailer. That will help give her a target to simply point the boat in-between them, and come up towards me.
I can absolutely relate to your situation. I have a 174 aluminum on a bunk trailer that I fish solo out of 90% of the time. I really struggled getting the boat loaded solo in windy conditions. A hot mess a couple of times, for sure. One of my winter projects was replacing the guide-on bunks that came with the trailer with a pair of the Bullseye Guides on the rear. Game changer so far. They extend a bit higher, so they are much easier to locate and will get you centered every time, even on the steeper launches in a cross wind. You still have to hit the target as straight as possible, but once you are positioned, they will keep you centered. My experience so far anyway. Next up is the Drotto for me, as well. Hopefully this will mostly solve the other bring challenge with solo loading; catching & securing the bow. One steeper ramps, and wind, having to scoot to the bow to try and hook the winch strap before the stern floats off the trailer is a frustrating adventure. Launching in same conditions can also be interesting, and I am hoping the Drotto will make that a bit less adventurous.

Please keep us posted on your solution and experience.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:55 PM
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If you look at the brackets that hold your bunks, they are "skewed" toward the tonque. You could unbolt them, spin them 180 degrees, mount them from the front-side of the crossmembers, and move the bunks back 3" or so,,,

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OK, so this just sunk in for me a couple minutes ago while looking at my trailer. I read this earlier without looking out at my trailer and it just didn't click in my mind - I'm kind of a visual person so that's not a first for me! Anyway, absolutely get what you're saying, and it might be the most simple option so far. My support that the bunk brackets mount to is 2" x 3", so I'd gain a hair over 2" by that flip. Add that to the extra inch cushion I already have, now I have 3" for the Dorotto to take up and use. I can tell by eyeballing and holding the latch roughly in place, it won't need all of that 3". I'm so glad I asked, everyone has been sharing some good ideas. I'm confident now that one of these solutions will work. This one would mean the boat - though fully supported - is 2" farther back. That would mean the ratchet strap tie downs would need to use a spacer of some sort to extend them out so the straps don't rub on the transom while securing the boat. I have seen folks suggest using some canvas or other type of material to cushion that, so still completely doable. Neat, this is something to really consider.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:59 PM
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I can absolutely relate to your situation. I have a 174 aluminum on a bunk trailer that I fish solo out of 90% of the time. I really struggled getting the boat loaded solo in windy conditions. A hot mess a couple of times, for sure. One of my winter projects was replacing the guide-on bunks that came with the trailer with a pair of the Bullseye Guides on the rear. Game changer so far. They extend a bit higher, so they are much easier to locate and will get you centered every time, even on the steeper launches in a cross wind. You still have to hit the target as straight as possible, but once you are positioned, they will keep you centered. My experience so far anyway. Next up is the Drotto for me, as well. Hopefully this will mostly solve the other bring challenge with solo loading; catching & securing the bow. One steeper ramps, and wind, having to scoot to the bow to try and hook the winch strap before the stern floats off the trailer is a frustrating adventure. Launching in same conditions can also be interesting, and I am hoping the Drotto will make that a bit less adventurous.

Please keep us posted on your solution and experience.
I definitely will. I'm big on wrapping up threads with pictures and what it took in the end - whether success of failure. It's always nice when someone in the future can come and learn how the story ended. Maybe they do it the same way, maybe not, but I think it's a good way to share the knowledge at least.
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Old 05-25-2021, 02:40 PM
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The Ranger Trail Head of Engineering told me its not the bunk board but the actual frame supporting the bunk he wanted under the back edge of the transom. He said 2" over hang was fine but not much more..so take that for whatever it is worth....maybe nothing....

You might just call Shorelander and the boat manufacturer and ask them about the overhang? just an idea....

Like Ive said before, I ended up putting stairs on and only use the drotto up north for week long trips...the stairs solve a lot. In reservoirs around here, windy wild landings on trailers arent what they are up north...
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Old 05-27-2021, 12:26 PM
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The Ranger Trail Head of Engineering told me its not the bunk board but the actual frame supporting the bunk he wanted under the back edge of the transom. He said 2" over hang was fine but not much more..so take that for whatever it is worth....maybe nothing....

You might just call Shorelander and the boat manufacturer and ask them about the overhang? just an idea....

Like Ive said before, I ended up putting stairs on and only use the drotto up north for week long trips...the stairs solve a lot. In reservoirs around here, windy wild landings on trailers arent what they are up north...
Definitely a good idea to talk with Shorland'r and I did do just that. Super nice folks. They offered another option which I did not realize was available until talking to them. It turns out that for my trailer, they make different "tail section" lengths that lead up to the hinge of where the swing tongue then connects. My trailer currently has the short length, but I could switch it out for the medium. He gave me the part number if I wanted to do that. Doing that would add an extra 12" of space to slide my winch stand forward from where it currently is now. The only negative that brings for me is that right now I don't have to use the swing ability of my trailer because I fit in the garage with just a couple inches to spare. If I were to switch out that section for the medium length, it would still fit in the garage, but I would have to use the swing for sure. Not a deal breaker to be sure, but just something for me to think about.

As for the weight distribution change - this being the case where I added the Dorotto and just "let it ride wherever the boat ends up", they had a bit of concern. The minor one being that the tongue weight would change a bit, but, honestly, probably not enough to worry about. The bigger concern was for my boat and trailer setup, the transom extending off the back bunks by a couple inches was really not ideal. I know we've discussed it already in this thread, I'm just adding for future readers that the specs for trailers and tolerances between companies can definitely be different, so if in doubt, fire off and email to them and find out.
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Old 05-27-2021, 04:48 PM
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Definitely a good idea to talk with Shorland'r and I did do just that. Super nice folks. They offered another option which I did not realize was available until talking to them. It turns out that for my trailer, they make different "tail section" lengths that lead up to the hinge of where the swing tongue then connects. My trailer currently has the short length, but I could switch it out for the medium. He gave me the part number if I wanted to do that. Doing that would add an extra 12" of space to slide my winch stand forward from where it currently is now. The only negative that brings for me is that right now I don't have to use the swing ability of my trailer because I fit in the garage with just a couple inches to spare. If I were to switch out that section for the medium length, it would still fit in the garage, but I would have to use the swing for sure. Not a deal breaker to be sure, but just something for me to think about.
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I'm not sure how handy you are, but you could take that longer "tail" section, cut it to the length you need, drill a couple of holes, and accomplish what you need,,,,,,

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Old 08-10-2021, 06:48 PM
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I finally got closure on this issue this last Sunday. Lots of busy things in life kept getting in the way.

So, I did a test install of the Drotto latch with my Dad in early June. We backed the trailer down the ramp, rolled the boat with the winch strap back about a foot and then swapped in the Drotto latch. We then cranked it back on to the trailer with the winch until the Drotto latch caught, and then tightened everything down - just like the directions described. This probably took all of 10 minutes. Super easy. Pulled the boat back off the ramp and went and checked the back of the bunks. Yep, the transom did indeed extend back off the bunks by about 2". So, I was in the same situation as others and I'm glad I started this thread and got the suggestions in case that was going to be how it played out. Unfortunately, I didn't have the time on that first try to make trailer adjustments. I knew I had to pick one of the options discussed here and fit in the time to do it.

Finally, this last Sunday, the timing worked out for me to get back to it. I did the same process as before - installed the Drotto latch with the boat winched back about a foot. I then launched the boat and with the trailer empty, went to work. I picked HRG's great suggestion in post #10 here in this thread - reversing the support brackets 180 degrees. This turned out to be the easiest and most straight forward solution for me. When I loaded the boat back onto the trailer, it fit perfectly. I have right at a 1/2" of extra bunk length off the back, so the boat is still fully supported just like it was before installing the Drotto. Very pleased with the setup.
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Old 08-11-2021, 07:41 PM
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I finally got closure on this issue this last Sunday. Lots of busy things in life kept getting in the way.

So, I did a test install of the Drotto latch with my Dad in early June. We backed the trailer down the ramp, rolled the boat with the winch strap back about a foot and then swapped in the Drotto latch. We then cranked it back on to the trailer with the winch until the Drotto latch caught, and then tightened everything down - just like the directions described. This probably took all of 10 minutes. Super easy. Pulled the boat back off the ramp and went and checked the back of the bunks. Yep, the transom did indeed extend back off the bunks by about 2". So, I was in the same situation as others and I'm glad I started this thread and got the suggestions in case that was going to be how it played out. Unfortunately, I didn't have the time on that first try to make trailer adjustments. I knew I had to pick one of the options discussed here and fit in the time to do it.

Finally, this last Sunday, the timing worked out for me to get back to it. I did the same process as before - installed the Drotto latch with the boat winched back about a foot. I then launched the boat and with the trailer empty, went to work. I picked HRG's great suggestion in post #10 here in this thread - reversing the support brackets 180 degrees. This turned out to be the easiest and most straight forward solution for me. When I loaded the boat back onto the trailer, it fit perfectly. I have right at a 1/2" of extra bunk length off the back, so the boat is still fully supported just like it was before installing the Drotto. Very pleased with the setup.

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