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Old 11-23-2021, 06:11 PM
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Default Cormorants and fish stocks......

I had referenced this article in another thread (now deleted...?) because someone mentioned a concern in the number of cormorants observed on some NW Ontario lakes in the past year or so. As I know all WC members take pride on being on the cutting edge of fisheries science I think this is a good article to arm yourself with when dealing with your boorish relatives this Thanksgiving (US) weekend.

From my observations, I've seen less of these birds the past two years. Seems like "back in the day", before anglers....when the fishing was stellar these birds were just part of the environment. Anyways here's the article..... https://www.ace-eco.org/vol16/iss2/a...Hyrfha1efVo1bw

Let's see who ties their undies in a knot over this one.....

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Old 11-23-2021, 06:19 PM
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Hmmm... a position paper on Cormorants created by an Avian society.

No bias there :-)
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Old 11-23-2021, 06:33 PM
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I had referenced this article in another thread (now deleted...?) because someone mentioned a concern in the number of cormorants observed on some NW Ontario lakes in the past year or so. As I know all WC members take pride on being on the cutting edge of fisheries science I think this is a good article to arm yourself with when dealing with your boorish relatives this Thanksgiving (US) weekend.

From my observations, I've seen less of these birds the past two years. Seems like "back in the day", before anglers....when the fishing was stellar these birds were just part of the environment. Anyways here's the article..... https://www.ace-eco.org/vol16/iss2/a...Hyrfha1efVo1bw

Let's see who ties their undies in a knot over this one.....[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.walleyecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/rockit.gif[/IMG]

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East end cormorants totally outnumber their west ones.This I know.and pelicans
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:57 PM
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Hmmm... a position paper on Cormorants created by an Avian society.

No bias there :-)
Yes, and you didn't read the article.....it was written by a fisheries bio.
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:58 PM
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East end cormorants totally outnumber their west ones.This I know.and pelicans
.....and did you read the article?.....no.
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:29 AM
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East end cormorants totally outnumber their west ones.This I know.and pelicans
What about flamingo migrations on Eagle Lake....Iíve heard they are dwindling.

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Old 11-24-2021, 07:34 AM
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What about flamingo migrations on Eagle Lake....Iíve heard they are dwindling.

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Maybe you should read this article....https://www.huffpost.com/entry/defin...***s_b_5273535
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Yes, and you didn't read the article.....it was written by a fisheries bio.
Sure I did. Don't assume.

When he said that the fisheries issue was being more threatened by humans as "we are responsible for climate change".... he lost a significant amount of credibility.

His writing is full of "may" and "can" and he is critical of the MNRF because they are acting on data which is not apparent to him. All the while postulating his position based on data he is not providing to us.
Nah... this was similar to a politician switching parties, and the receiving party using this as AH-HA! See? We were right!

I got a chuckle out of the Avian Conservation group posting that his writing had a conflict of interest, even though his position benefited them.

Odd that a "science based" organization would not understand what conflict of interest is.
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See? Two sides to every story...
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_...cal-Series.pdf
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:45 AM
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East end cormorants totally outnumber their west ones.This I know.and pelicans
.....and did you read the article?.....no.
Ok Gord read the whole story.To long of a read and basically same info as years ago.Its the human way when animals get in the way.Wipe them out.Usually anything mnr does is useless look at our moose herds.Also did not see one flamugo this year so need to dinß out about the status of them.Could be to many cormorants
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