Uni knot troubles

[Fin Bender]

I've used a double uni for floro leaders to braid main line for a few years. Been doing this on 12 lb stuff and under, works great.
Now I'm trying to use a basic uni on 17 lb mono directly to a hook. For the life of me I can't tie this without curling the line. This is Trilene XL, lubracated before cinching, an properly tied. Any help here for me?

Originally Posted by Fin Bender

I've used a double uni for floro leaders to braid main line for a few years. Been doing this on 12 lb stuff and under, works great.
Now I'm trying to use a basic uni on 17 lb mono directly to a hook. For the life of me I can't tie this without curling the line. This is Trilene XL, lubracated before cinching, an properly tied. Any help here for me?

When cinching down the knot, I always do it slowly with a lubricated line while pulling the tag end and using my hand to work the knot down tight....obviously, the thicker the diameter line I'm using (particularly with mono or fluoro) the slower the knot should be cinched and more lubricated the knot should be while clinching tight.
I like to use either a Trilene knot or Palomar knot for what you are tying to....either way, slow down, keep the line lubed and work the knot carefully...also, with thicker diameter lines, I like to have more line initially (a longer tag) before I start wrapping....allow more line to work with and go slow!

[BornToFish]

Greetings,

It's a bit difficult to tell in the picture, but it appears that the original poster is tying to a swivel that is integral with the hook. If so, I would also be using a Palomar or Trilene knot in such a situation.

I commonly use the uni-knot for snelling a hook. I try to take up as much loose line through the tag end, rather than pulling loose line within the knot towards the mainline. I also use saliva to lubricate the line when cinching down the knot.

Good fishing and tight lines!!

Originally Posted by BornToFish

Greetings,

It's a bit difficult to tell in the picture, but it appears that the original poster is tying to a swivel that is integral with the hook. If so, I would also be using a Palomar or Trilene knot in such a situation.

I commonly use the uni-knot for snelling a hook. I try to take up as much loose line through the tag end, rather than pulling loose line within the knot towards the mainline. I also use saliva to lubricate the line when cinching down the knot.

Good fishing and tight lines!!

Yes, I also use a uni-knot for snelling e.g. an Octopus hook (where the Eye of the hook is not in-line with the shank)...it keeps the hook straight when setting the hook allowing for a better hookset!

[tandm]

I've found that with heavier line, either mono or fluoto, I have better luck with the trilene knot, lots of lubrication and pulling the knot tight using the tag end, as much as possible. I also agree that slow and steady produces the best result.

Originally Posted by tandm

I've found that with heavier line, either mono or fluoto, I have better luck with the trilene knot, lots of lubrication and pulling the knot tight using the tag end, as much as possible. I also agree that slow and steady produces the best result.

Yeah, slow and steady and doing it correctly the first try takes less time than going fast and having to retie two or maybe three times (especially at night or in low light conditions)....plus you are not wasting line...and yeah, I know some might think that not much line is wasted it you have to retie, but, over the course of time it all adds up!

[REW]

For tying mono or floro to a hook or swivel, the palamor knot works very very very well and is tied up very very very quickly.

Take care

Originally Posted by REW

For tying mono or floro to a hook or swivel, the palamor knot works very very very well and is tied up very very very quickly.

Take care

Maybe I'm wrong, but every time I read a response by you it comes across as if you think you are so much smarter than everyone...the op was basically asking, what am I doing wrong? Your answer to me is as if you are trying to reject the idea of taking ones time to ensure a good knot is tied without compromising the integrity of the line....when I (and I'm sure the others that recommended as well) said to take your time, I didn't literally mean spend 15 minutes....just take your time...no need to do it very, very, very very,very quickly! Your answer did include an option on a different knot to use, but, it didn't offer any insight as to why the op's knot probably failed or turned out as it did...do you have a problem with recommending to the op to take their time?

[h8go4s]

I cinch up the knot loosely by pulling on the tag end, then hold the main line and slide the knot down to the hook. Cinch it up a little tighter, slide it down again. When you can't slide it down any more, pull on the main line to tighten the coils.

[mjayn]

Obviously best to fix the problem but when you do get twisty line, run the line though your fingers until it heats up. Lines straightens out nicely. I do this to check for nicks/abrasion as well.