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Old 05-21-2014, 03:52 PM
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If you deleted the app from your device, IF you synced it with itunes, you should still have the original .ipa file under the mobile applications folder of itunes.
It is ALWAYS a good ideal to locate the original "Apple" ipa OR "Android" apk application install files to save away for safe keeping.
Once you have them saved with backups, nobody can take them away and you can always reinstall them later.
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To be clear in saying always, so long as you purchased it and that purchase is still on record of your apple account, you should be able to install it anytime you wish so long as you have the ipa file.

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Old 05-21-2014, 08:57 PM
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Your stealing from guys that had nothing to do with making or selling the crankbaits. They deserve to get paid for their work.


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Old 05-21-2014, 09:15 PM
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Your stealing from guys that had nothing to do with making or selling the crankbaits. They deserve to get paid for their work.


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I'm not stealing from anyone. You mean to tell me that these companies don't test any of their baits before marketing them? I know for a fact that they do their own testing to determine what depths they run. Even if they put minimal amount of info to use as a bench mark, I'm sure nobody would complain. Anyways, sorry about the rant and hijacking this thread. Just pretend I wasn't even here.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:20 PM
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I agree 100%!! We spend up to $13 a piece for these baits, so why can't they provide information on how to run these baits correctly. It would be like purchasing a locator without any instructions, and having to pay an extra $50 for the instruction booklet. I am putting the crimal stamp on the crank bait companies. Taking a picture of the pages gets an approval stamp in my book!

If you're taking pictures of a book in a store because your too cheap to buy it, that is stealing.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:47 PM
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I have it in my I-cloud, does that do anything for me? If so, how do I get it back to my phone?
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If you go to your app store, there is a button for purchased apps and it should be there to download from your cloud.
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Maybe we should start dive curve forum or thread here on WC. That way if anybody needs some dive curve numbers those of us who have the answers for that particular lure can freely share "our" knowledge. We share everything else on here about catching walleyes, why not dive curve numbers too?
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You analogy isn't 100% valid. You are assuming that every one of the millions of people that buy these lures need to know exactly how deep each lure runs with X amount of line out and the difference between running mono and braid. When in truth, it is only a percentage of people who are trolling and long-lining these baits behind boards or a boat, that are interested in those dive curves.
Most people are just as content with the information on the labels of each lure box that prescribe the "running depth" range for the lures in question when deciding which lure to cast a shoreline with. While on the lakes I fish you are in the minority if you are not trolling cranks, the same does not hold true for the rest of their consumer bases across the U.S.
Plus when you get right down to brass tacks, it is not even known for sure whether or not most manufacturers (aside from Berkeley which publishes their dive curves for free) even know what their respective dive curves look like for each individual lure they produce. It isn't as easy as throwing a prototype in a test pool in their R&D cell somewhere. That's why M. Romanack put together a staff of scuba divers and entire team to go out on an actual lake to work to record said information and publish for the fishing community.
I'm indifferent in the fact that they are charging for this data, I could care less. I own and paid for two of the six versions of Romanack's Trolling Bible. I'm simply stating that, yes, in these circles and forums here on WC, the data and dive curves is definitely of the utmost importance, and seems like it should just be included with every lure you own. But the fact of the matter is that walleye fishermen, and more specifically the "avid" walleye fishermen who troll and long-line these crank baits just are not prevalent enough over these companies entire customer base for them to justify the one-off type of research required to provide us with this type of information on every single lure and size they manufacture.

I'd consider this post a fail. The manufactures sell this product knowing a good portion of the users will use it for trolling. While I bought the lifetime app, I really do think its a joke the companies don't supply you with the info. Really its foolish of them. Educate your product user better and he should have more success with your baits. More success with your baits more likely he is to purchase more of your baits. last year or so i was purchasing a lot of berkley flicker shads because the information in the package helped me use the product and have more success using it.

When people asked how i did, well got a couple. Really what were you using.......Well flicker shads.......not really any better then a lot of raps but i knew how much line to let out to get in the depth zone i wanted. Because i had luck on flicker shads what did they do? well they threw a couple on the checkout counter to use that day.

Trying to justify the lack of information a company gives you on using there product is laughable IMO. Sure most of us know how to use it, but don't you want new consumers to have a good experience with your product to become repeat customers! A bad experience from not using a product because of lack of knowledge on how to use it is unacceptable in the market place today. Why do you think people pay more for a "name "brand product.
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